[native-lang] Re: [l10n-dev] Translating on the Wiki

Hi Clayton,

thank you for the below update and for re-opening a productive 
discussion thread on the need of a localization process for wiki 
documentation.

I am saying re-opening because this is something we already started 
quite some time ago:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/L10n_Wiki_Process_for_Documentation

By looking at the status of the above page, I just realized that it definitively needs 
to get updated. It would be really great if we could restart using this page to track 
were we are and to update any relevant information.

From the *l10n* perspective, the current status is that we have set up a dedicated Pootle server for 
documentation where to post wiki extracted content as XLIFF: 
pootle3.sunvirtuallab.com
However, we are still working to find a good way to convert wtxt to 
xliff by keeping the wiki structure (that is to say one file per page 
extracted) 
The advantage would be to have the documentation content all in one 
place and tools with which translators are more or less familiar.

But of course Pootle is not the only tool and i would be more that glad to explore other processes and tools.

Or, we could look into other possibilities ... so the more feedback on this topic, the better :-)  

Kind Regards,
Rafaella

On 11/20/09 12:15, Clayton wrote:
> * Crossposted: L10N and NLC mailing lists *
>
> I want to run this past everyone who might be involved in translating
> documents on the OOoWiki and get some of your input.
>
> Periodically we have well-intentioned community members translating Wiki
> content.  Unfortunately they often translate directly in the original
> page, overwriting the original content with the translated content.
> We've been catching most of it, and sorting it out with emails to the
> people doing the translations and correcting the errors.
>
> I'm working on a few things with the Doc Project members... some we've
> implemented, some still in the idea stage... to try and reduce this, and
> make things easier for everyone who's doing translations (we want to
> encourage people to keep on translating :-) )
>
> We've added this new Help page to the wiki:
> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Help:Translating
> which still needs to be worked on a bit to get cover all the info
> required (feel free to edit it and add info that is helpful to first
> time translators) - the intended audience for the Help page is for first
> time translators and people doing ad-hoc translations.  Co-ordinated
> translations using offline processes (converting to po or xlif ect) is
> not really the focus on the Help:Translating page.
>
> I've added a note to the Wiki that shows up at the bottom of the page
> every time you edit - maybe you've noticed it?  If not, just edit any
> page and look immediately below the Save button.
>
> We've also come across this translation extension:
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Translate
> which was originally designed to translate MediaWiki messages, but is
> apparently being used to translate Wiki content as well.  What may be of
> interest to everyone involved in the more formal organized translation
> process is the fact that it can export po format.  If you as a group are
> interested in exploring this extension a little, I can install it,
> but... it would be up to you to work with it and test it to see if it
> meets your needs.  I have some preliminary contact info with people who
> say it's suitable to use for page translations (see
> http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Main_Page )
>
> C.
>