Re: My Comments

Ethan,

I've spent several hours - at least 7-8 - working with you on this 
latest project.  As you know it has morphed from one "problem" to 
another in the course of days.  Yes - miscommunication on your part 
which you took responsibility for.  That happens.  I even had a whole 
new pair of working scripts tested out and ready to send to you when you 
informed me of this snafu.  But - when you took the functional, working 
example scripts that I wrote and previously gave to you and turned them 
into something unrecognizable and non-functional I realized that I am 
helping the blind.  You don't know the least bit about html structure. 
You don't understand how to code in 3 different "languages" at the same 
time and make them readable, workable, and maintainable.   You also 
don't understand how to diagnose your problem and present it to this 
community in a way that's fathomable and understandable to someone who 
has no clue what your overall goal is.  Sure you may want to include the 
whole g..d... script at this point, but again, that's not what you want 
to do.  You need to debug, to isolate, and to work hard at getting to 
the root of your problem and then, and ONLY THEN, come to others with 
your request for help.  Present a clearly manageable and functioning 
piece of code that you feel is the problem area and ask for help on it.

It is also clear to me that you cannot see the forest for the trees when 
it comes to designing and developing your programming solutions.  After 
our miscommunication and the alteration of your solution from one 
involving an ajax call to obtain data "behind the scenes", two days 
later you post a request for help on exactly that thing.

Your latest plea for help was *impossible* to look at from the outside 
and help you with.  You had the same repeated statements in it.  You 
even had a loop executing twice in it - what's up with that?  You throw 
pieces of your coding attempts at us that clearly don't fit together and 
expect us to make something of it.

And lastly - you just don't get it.  You are dealing with a forum of 
people who have a better understanding of the things you are trying to 
grasp and yet you persevere in blaming us for not helping you.  This is 
not the first time you have complained about that.  And yet you haven't 
learned from it.

For the last time ( on my part at least), LOOKAT THE SCRIPTS I GAVE YOU. 
  STUDY THEM LIKE YOU WOULD A CHEMISTRY BOOK.  THIS IS THE WAY YOU 
SHOULD LEARN TO CODE.  From this point forward adopt *that* style of 
coding until you can morph it into your own style (which everyone has). 
  Only at that point will you be able to converse knowledgeably with the 
people here of whom you are asking for help.  Karl has clearly told you 
the same thing yet you took it with offense (as I'm sure you will this 
letter).  Think - there is a reason behind our harshness.  We could have 
just laughed ourselves silly and ignored your posts instead of putting 
time and effort into trying to interpret and help (when possible) and be 
faced time and again with the same clearly unmanageable contexts in your 
confusing posts.

You can choose to ignore this blatantly punishing post and call me 
whatever you wish.  I just could not ignore your silly rejoinder to the 
latest criticism of your attempt at coding.  I'm sure you regretted 
hitting Send almost immediately.

And one more thing - I realize that you are so very proud of that 'PhD' 
at the end of your name.  Well, I'm sure I can speak for many of us here 
- it means nothing.  Painfully obvious when you demonstrate such 
woefully poor computer skills that have not changed one bit in the 6-8 
months that I (and others) have been reading and responding to your 
posts.  Besides - it's a degree in Chemistry.  It's of no use here and I 
would think it's an embarassment to you by now that you continue to tout 
your academic prowess yet do not show the slightest bit of improvement 
as a student of PHP.

By the way - Fortran is nothing like the kind of involved technology 
that you are attempting to work with now.  Why do you keep pointing it 
out?  Many of us (older folks) here probably wrote Fortran at some point 
in our careers - do you think any of us remember the first thing about 
it?  Or use anything gleaned from it in today's world?

Sincerely, seriously, and known for holding no punches,
Jim Giner


ps - if you want my unsent, last attempts that I mentioned, drop me a 
line.  Or not.

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