Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Discussion] Literal Scalar Types

Pierre Joye <[email protected]> Fri, 31 Jul 2026 20:43:12 +0700
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Hey Matteo  :)



On Fri, Jul 31, 2026, 8:39=E2=80=AFPM Matteo Beccati <[email protected]> wrot=
e:

> Hi Pierre,
>
> Il 31/07/2026 13:06, Pierre Joye ha scritto:
> > beta phases exist exactly for this reason. wider base of testers.
> >
> > alpha is, heh, this is what we have so far, more or less stable, go tes=
t
> > it already!
> >
> > RCs are everything should be stable, that's the final state, last
> > stage(s) for any bugs or breaks that didn't get caught earlier.
> >
> > we should not expect "widely tested" new features, never released befor=
e
> > per se.
>
> Yes indeed. But often unexpected side effects and breakages are caught
> by various CIs running daily snapshots with OSS projects


right, and many use snapshot. and our ci is already very complete tbh. took
a while to make it green from a greenfield additions.

and yes, that's what beta are for  :)


>
> > between the limited time induced by the updated policies, the Christmas
> > break "pls don't", and this, one needs to take holidays to make it
> > somehow as the time left in a year is low, very low, now.
>
> I hear you, it's just that undoing or amending an RFC is a convoluted
> process too, especially very late in the release cycle.



we are technically still in alpha.... it is not late. It is early in my
book  ;-)

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<div dir=3D"auto"><div><div><br></div><div>Hey Matteo=C2=A0 :)</div><div di=
r=3D"auto"><br></div><div data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Jul 31, 2026, 8:39=E2=80=AFPM Ma=
tteo Beccati &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8=
ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Pierre,<br>
<br>
Il 31/07/2026 13:06, Pierre Joye ha scritto:<br>
&gt; beta phases exist exactly for this reason. wider base of testers.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; alpha is, heh, this is what we have so far, more or less stable, go te=
st <br>
&gt; it already!<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; RCs are everything should be stable, that&#39;s the final state, last =
<br>
&gt; stage(s) for any bugs or breaks that didn&#39;t get caught earlier.<br=
>
&gt; <br>
&gt; we should not expect &quot;widely tested&quot; new features, never rel=
eased before <br>
&gt; per se.<br>
<br>
Yes indeed. But often unexpected side effects and breakages are caught <br>
by various CIs running daily snapshots with OSS projects</blockquote></div>=
</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">right, and many use sna=
pshot. and our ci is already very complete tbh. took a while to make it gre=
en from a greenfield additions.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto">and yes, that&#39;s what beta are for=C2=A0 :)</div><div dir=3D"a=
uto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"></div><div dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
<br>
&gt; between the limited time induced by the updated policies, the Christma=
s <br>
&gt; break &quot;pls don&#39;t&quot;, and this, one needs to take holidays =
to make it <br>
&gt; somehow as the time left in a year is low, very low, now.<br>
<br>
I hear you, it&#39;s just that undoing or amending an RFC is a convoluted <=
br>
process too, especially very late in the release cycle.</blockquote></div><=
/div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"au=
to">we are technically still in alpha.... it is not late. It is early in my=
 book=C2=A0 ;-)</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></di=
v><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"></div></div>

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