Re: [PHP-DEV] AI generated mails

در تاریخ شنبه ۲۹ اوت ۲۰۲۶، ۱۵:۱۳ youkidearitai <[email protected]>
نوشت:

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> Yuya Hamada (tekimen)
> - https://tekitoh-memdhoi.info
> - https://github.com/youkidearitai
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> 2026年8月29日(土) 20:22 سپهر محمودی <[email protected]>:
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>> Hello dear Yuya,
>>
>> Yuya, this message was very important — that's why I'm sharing it only
>> with you. Due to a specific medical condition, I can only work at my
>> computer for 1 hour per day. That's why the design process for my functions
>> takes a bit longer.
>>
>> After this function, God willing, I will begin my work as an official
>> contributor to the intl extension and add grapheme and Persian language
>> functions to PHP. In one of the examples for each RFC, I'll also include a
>> Japanese example so you can feel assured.
>>
>> Please send your reply only to my personal email.
>>
>> With appreciation,
>> Sepehr
>>
>>
>> در تاریخ جمعه ۲۸ اوت ۲۰۲۶، ۱۰:۱۵ youkidearitai <[email protected]>
>> نوشت:
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>>> ‪2026年8月28日(金) 8:24 ‫سپهر محمودی‬‎ <[email protected]>:‬
>>> >
>>> > Hello Mr. Yuya,
>>> > I am sending this email to you personally because I felt uncomfortable
>>> having it go to the mailing list.
>>> > I do know PHP and C coding, but—partly to boost my standing—I used to
>>> rely on AI for my responses; I would provide the answer, and the AI would
>>> write it out.
>>> > However, I wrote this particular one myself.
>>> > If you don't mind this approach, I could provide the answer to the AI
>>> and let it respond as usual; otherwise, I will write the responses myself,
>>> as I did this time.
>>> > Also, please forgive me for the remark I made regarding the esteemed
>>> Rasmus Lerdorf.
>>> > I look forward to your reply.
>>> > Please send your response only to me so the list doesn't find out.
>>> > Best regards,
>>> > Sepehr
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > در تاریخ پنجشنبه ۲۷ اوت ۲۰۲۶، ۱۴:۲۳ youkidearitai <
>>> [email protected]> نوشت:
>>> >>
>>> >> ‪2026年8月26日(水) 20:44 ‫سپهر محمودی‬‎ <[email protected]>:‬
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > در تاریخ چهارشنبه ۲۶ اوت ۲۰۲۶، ۰۵:۴۹ Pierre Joye <
>>> [email protected]> نوشت:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Hi Osama,
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On Wed, Aug 26, 2026 at 1:48 AM Osama Aldemeery <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> > Not trying to speak for anyone here, but it seems like the
>>> concern
>>> >> >> > about AI use on the list isn't really about helping with
>>> translation
>>> >> >> > or other genuine values of AI. That has been said explicitly
>>> more than
>>> >> >> > once, and I don't think anyone has actually argued against it.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > What has been objected to, though, is a tool authoring the
>>> argument
>>> >> >> > itself, with a person just forwarding it as their own.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> I would be interested to know how to differentiate this. It will
>>> aslo
>>> >> >> pop ups quickly during discussions.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Watermark maybe? ;-)
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> > If that is roughly right, then I think the problem isn't really
>>> about
>>> >> >> > using AI per se, it's probably more about
>>> >> >> > engagement/authenticity/authorship. Which is something a policy
>>> could
>>> >> >> > probably be written around.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Please no more policies. It is already too much and one needs a Sr
>>> VP
>>> >> >> of compliance to parse some of the existing one to make sense of
>>> them.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> > Additionally, a written policy would make it easier for those
>>> who rely
>>> >> >> > on AI to blend in by drawing the guardrails and explicitly
>>> stating
>>> >> >> > what is and isn't acceptable. Something that would keep the list
>>> as
>>> >> >> > welcoming as it has always been without draining people's energy.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> If we start to add even more barriers, we are not welcoming, we are
>>> >> >> guarding railing contributions on subjective interpretation of what
>>> >> >> one wrote, or how.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Best,
>>> >> >> --
>>> >> >> Pierre
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> @pierrejoye
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > ----------
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Hi everyone,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Please, let's bring this discussion to an end.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Continuing this thread is only hurting PHP's reputation and
>>> disrespects the immense hard work of esteemed contributors like Rasmus
>>> Lerdorf.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > As a newcomer and a contributor specifically to the ext/intl
>>> extension, I believe there's no reason for us to cause unnecessary tension
>>> among ourselves. The current policies are already in place, and we cannot
>>> perform miracles overnight.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Let's focus our energy on building and improving PHP together.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Best regards,
>>> >> > Sepehr
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi Sepehr
>>> >>
>>> >> > Continuing this thread is only hurting PHP's reputation and
>>> disrespects the immense hard work of esteemed contributors like Rasmus
>>> Lerdorf.
>>> >>
>>> >> That is not for you to say.
>>> >> To reconfirm your position: your using the AI that trying communicate
>>> us.
>>> >> Your position is tolerated by a small number of non-native English
>>> >> speakers, likes we.
>>> >>
>>> >> However, If you undermine that trust, you will immediately lose your
>>> position.
>>> >> If that happens, the community will likely conclude that there is no
>>> >> point in saying anything to the AI.
>>> >>
>>> >> Please be careful.
>>> >> Yuya
>>> >> --
>>> >> ---------------------------
>>> >> Yuya Hamada (tekimen)
>>> >> - https://tekitoh-memdhoi.info
>>> >> - https://github.com/youkidearitai
>>> >> -----------------------------
>>>
>>> Hi Sepehr
>>>
>>> Thank you for adding my name.
>>> For your Information: There is Kanji's in my name, Yuya is 侑弥
>>> Could you like add my Kanji?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Yuya
>>>
>>> --
>>> ---------------------------
>>> Yuya Hamada (tekimen)
>>> - https://tekitoh-memdhoi.info
>>> - https://github.com/youkidearitai
>>> -----------------------------
>>>
>>
>
> Hi
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> This(reply only me) is the break of internals rule, So I reply the
> internals.
>
> What is your question? What I should I do?
>
> Regards
> Yuya
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Hello everyone.
> Dear Yuya—this was just for information;
> I didn't mean anything by it.
> Understood; from now on, I will abide by the rules—
> provided, of course, that the members don't deem me an offender again⁸
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