Re: frameworks

Aziz Saleh <[email protected]> Wed, 14 Aug 2024 08:49:55 -0400
Newsgroups gmane.comp.php.general
Message-ID <CAPJtNhXSxCrj6knKcXi1QAb0faiz7Md7Q==SrG+1sbOD1oMNsQ@mail.gmail.com>
Those against frameworks will always be against frameworks.

Frameworks make working in things faster, makes things re-usable and allow
multiple devs to easily figure out the codebase without learning curve.

On Wed, Aug 14, 2024 at 8:29 AM bruce <[email protected]> wrote:

> Every now and then (and recently on another post) some argue that
> "frameworks" aren't needed.
>
> I'm not arguing that all frameworks are good, or bad. I would argue
> that if one gets an app from github using a "framework", then you
> assume certain things about the app, based on the underlying
> framework. Now, can this/these implied assumptions be correct?
>
> I'm not sure, as I don't know if any framework has a "testsuite" that
> one can run to ensure the app is actually using the underlying
> framework. So the app could have serious holes in it.
>
> The same can be said for a php app that's home grown. Who really knows
> what you're getting. Unless the app is from a "solid" operation
> (msft/goog/meta/etc..) who knows what you'd really be getting
> underneath the covers.
>
> So.. what's a small  dev to do!
>
> In a reasonable dev env, you'd have the dev process, as well as test
> (considerable), both during dev, as well as pre production. You'd have
> security tests running through a bunch of scenarios including all
> kinds of external   situations/inputs, edge cases, etc..
>
> feel free to comment (reasonable/no screaming!!)
>
> thanks
>