Re: [SMARTY] Re: Smarty and Sessions

On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 01:51:28PM +0200, Jochem Maas wrote:
> messju mohr wrote:
> >On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 11:30:14AM +0200, Jochem Maas wrote:
> >
> >>anybody care to explain that?
> >
> >
> >someone requested that feature and somebody else implemented it. it's
> >that simple.

(just to clarify: i was in neither of the two parties above)

> well if it's like that then I'm wondering why you/others repeatedly bash
> the 'keep it simple for the developers - and don't given them 'programmatic'
> interfaces/paradigms to work with, they will get confused and f*** it up'
> drum.

are you trolling? it should read "keep it simple for the designers, so
give them *simple* 'programmatic' interfaces/paradigms to work with"
or something like that, i think.
 
> basically I think you gave a bogus answer, messju. and if you really stand 
> by
> it - rather than it being an off-the-cuff retort - then your arguments
> regarding uncoupling/seperating the designer from [complex] code and
> programming-related resposibilities (like making sure no tainted data makes 
> it
> into the output) are very weak IMHO, because a feature request, the fact 
> that somebody codes
> the feature and whether the implemented feature in included in the codebase 
> are 3 seperate
> things but by your logic implementing something equates to including it in 
> the codebase.

no. that's your interpretation, not my logic. you are trolling, don't you?

> I.m sure that's all not true but as fas as I am concerned it still leaves
> the fact that stuffing (in this example) REQUEST superglobals into the scope
> compiled templates run in is not right according to your own arguments 
> regarding
> accomodating the designer's role inside a work/development-process.
> 
> I would argue that Smarty should be blocking access to GET/POST/REQUEST
> (as much as is possible) by default.
> 
> what do you think?

I think there are features in smarty that i don't need, so I don't use
them (request vars is one of them, method-calls is another one). And
I think you should act the same.

greetings
messju

> rgds,
> Jochem

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