Re: Why can't each Aggregate Root have its own collections of entities/ARs?

Dennis Traub <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.programming.domain-driven-design
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Tom,

First off: Are you asking a question or trying to prove a point? You
responses to everyone trying to answer suggest the latter.

That said, in my opinion Simon's answer was the first one in this thread
that really broke it down to what totally makes sense. And what he proposed
would radically simplify rather than complicate things. OO modelling is
best done with an open mind, not a pre-defined set of "that's how we did it
all the time"

Best

Dennis
On Aug 29, 2013 7:43 AM, "Tom Eugelink" <[email protected]> wrote:

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> On 2013-08-29 00:03, Simon Fox wrote:
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> Now if you take that further and say that a World needs to know how many
> Countries each Continent has to perform it's responsibilities, the only
> data that the World AR needs to hold is a map of ContinentID to Country
> count, again maintained via domain events.
>
>
> This of course is true, but it very much feels like "early
> optimalisation". I once knew a client (insurance company) who optimized its
> database for flexibility so far, that they ended up with two tables: one
> contained the datamodel, the other contained the values. Extremely
> flexible... Totally unusable, mainly because it performed awfully and
> newcomers had a very hard time getting date in and out of it.
>
> Now, I'm not comparing that situation with the current discussion
> directly, but it illustrates that there needs to be a balance between
> optimization (on what ever aspect) and usability. The disconnected nature
> of a domain models can be a good thing, but if we go overboard, it can
> become a bad thing. The question is to find the sweet spot. My gut, and
> often in software development guts are involved, tells me that the
> recognition of separate DM's is wise, but bringing that down to the level
> of one or a few entities (like a invoice and its rows, aka aggregate roots)
> makes my gut go uneasy.
>
> Basically the whole domain, inter and intra, becomes message driven. And
> such complete loose coupling also leads to complexer code, harder to follow
> business logic, and new people not easily being able to see (or trace) the
> big picture. Personally, that does not sit well. Like that database
> example; almost completely message driven software??? Hmmmmmm.
>
> Tom
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