RE: This Group (was Re: Current Information)

"Brian Foote" <[email protected]> Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:09:48 -0500
Newsgroups gmane.comp.programming.emergent-design
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Is it necessary? Do you think it is any accident that the number of patterns
in the Gang of Four Book (23) is *exactly* the same as the number of
chromosomes in the human germ line?

--BF, who thinks it *is* an accident that 23 was also Micheal Jordan's
jersey #...
--BF meiosis / mitosis lets call the whole thing off... 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Michael Feathers
Sent: Thursday, 16 June, 2005 18:39
To: [email protected]
Subject: [emergentdesign] This Group (was Re: Current Information)


Brian, yeah, I was really hoping that would happen too. 

Jap, I agree that the Refactoring, TDD, and DDD groups are close, but I 
was kind of hoping this one would be a little different.  When I teach 
work with legacy code work, I always show a slide that shows cell 
mitosis and show how we can see parallels when classes grow too large.  
It is kind of geeky, but I like the metaphor and I feel there is 
something to it.

Right now, I'm at UML/Design World 2005 amongst hard core modelers and 
as I much as I respect their good intentions, you just don't find talk 
about software evolution in this crowd.  It's not part of their 
mindset.  Is the biological metaphor necessary?  Obviously it isn't, but 
I can't help but feel that it is valuable.

Michael

Brian Foote wrote:

> I must admit things are pretty dead around here. Can anyone tell me where
> they ARE having the kind of Software Patterns meets Santa Fe Institute 
> meets
> neural nets meets biological metaphors for software design discussion 
> I was
> hoping to see here?
>
> --BF, who'd like to at least lurk wherever it is that they are having 
> it...
> --BF, Complexity? Um, our stuff is complex, ain't it?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
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> On Behalf Of Jaap Beetstra
> Sent: Thursday, 16 June, 2005 13:20
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [emergentdesign] Current Information
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> > Anyone feel like there is a reason for this group anymore?  We
> > haven't
> > had much activity here.
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> > Michael
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> I don't see a reason for it anymore. First of all there's the lack of
> activity, second of all the overlap with the DomainDrivenDesign, TDD
> and/or Refactoring groups. My vote is to shut it down.
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> Jaap Beetstra
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