Re: Emergent Design book
"Jeff Grigg" <[email protected]> Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:16:07 -0500
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Oh; I had quite forgotten that this group existed. ...and that I was subsc=
ribed to it. ;->
Anyway...
Looks interesting. Haven't read it.
However, I did find this very nice one hour presentation on it:
http://www.netobjectives.com/webinars/EmergentDesign/EmergentDesign_12_=
11_2007.html
It's a good presentation; worthwhile listening. However I would say that f=
rom a pure and traditional XP perspective, everything he says is good, but =
that he doesn't go quite far enough. And he seems to insist that some thin=
gs have no cost and should just be taken on faith. So I can't completely a=
gree with him on all points. But I would say that he's generally on the ma=
rk with most things he's saying.
The presentation suggests continuing the discussion in this Yahoo group:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/leanprogramming/
I can see that the author is pretty active on that list.
Amazon has two online customer reviews for this book.
http://www.amazon.com/Emergent-Design-Evolutionary-Professional-Develop=
ment/dp/0321509366/ref=3Dsr_11_1?ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D1209330760&sr=3D11-1
Barnes & Noble has one:
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Emergent-Design/Scott-Bain/e/978032150=
9369/
And Safari has the book online -- for the usual membership fees:
http://safari.informit.com/9780321553720
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Marco Dorantes=20
To: [email protected]=20
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 1:17 PM
Subject: [emergentdesign] Emergent Design book
Hi all,
Do you know about this book? Do you know of an online review?
Do you think the author's approach to emergent design matches what have b=
een discussed in this forum?
Emergent Design: The Evolutionary Nature of Professional Software Develop=
ment by Scott L. Bain=20
Thank you very much in advance for any comment.
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<DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2">Oh; I had quite forgotten that this group
existed. ...and that I was subscribed to it. ;-></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2">Anyway...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2">Looks interesting. Haven't read
it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2">However, I did find this very nice one hour
presentation on it:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"> <A href="http://www.netobjectives.com/webinars/EmergentDesign/EmergentDesign_12_11_2007.html">http://www.netobjec<wbr>tives.com/<wbr>webinars/<wbr>EmergentDesign/<wbr>EmergentDesign_<wbr>12_11_2007.<wbr>html</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2">It's a good presentation; worthwhile
listening. However I would say that from a pure and traditional XP
perspective, everything he says is good, but that he doesn't go quite far
enough. And he seems to insist that some things have no cost and should
just be taken on faith. So I can't completely agree with him on all
points. But I would say that he's generally on the mark with most things
he's saying.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2">The presentation suggests continuing the discussion
in this Yahoo group:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"> <A href="http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/leanprogramming/">http://tech.<wbr>groups.yahoo.<wbr>com/group/<wbr>leanprogramming/</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2">I can see that the author is pretty active on that
list.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2">Amazon has two online customer reviews for this
book.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"> <A href="http://www.amazon.com/Emergent-Design-Evolutionary-Professional-Development/dp/0321509366/ref=sr_11_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1209330760&sr=11-1">http://www.amazon.<wbr>com/Emergent-<wbr>Design-Evolution<wbr>ary-Professional<wbr>-Development/<wbr>dp/0321509366/<wbr>ref=sr_11_<wbr>1?ie=UTF8&qid=1209330760&sr=11-1</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2">Barnes & Noble has one:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"> <A href="http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Emergent-Design/Scott-Bain/e/9780321509369/">http://search.<wbr>barnesandnoble.<wbr>com/Emergent-<wbr>Design/Scott-<wbr>Bain/e/978032150<wbr>9369/</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2">And Safari has the book online -- for the usual
membership fees:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"> <A href="http://safari.informit.com/9780321553720">http://safari.<wbr>informit.<wbr>com/978032155372<wbr>0</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial;">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4;FONT: 10pt arial;"><B>From:</B>
<A title="[email protected]" href="mailto:[email protected]">Marco Dorantes</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial;"><B>To:</B> <A title="[email protected]" href="mailto:[email protected]">emergentdesign@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial;"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 27, 2008 1:17
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial;"><B>Subject:</B> [emergentdesign] Emergent Design
book</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><SPAN lang="EN-US"><O><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size="3">Hi
all,<BR>Do you know about this book? Do you know of an online review?<BR>Do
you think the author's approach to emergent design matches what have been
discussed in this forum?<BR></FONT></O></SPAN></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><SPAN lang="EN-US"><O><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size="3"><A href="http://www3.addall.com/New/submitNew.cgi?query=0321509366+&type=ISBN&location=10000&state=&dispCurr=USD"><SPAN lang="EN-US"><O><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size="3">Emergent Design: The
Evolutionary Nature of Professional Software Development by Scott L.
Bain</FONT></O></SPAN></A> </FONT></O></SPAN></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><SPAN lang="EN-US"><O><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size="3">Thank
you very much in advance for any
comment.</FONT></O></SPAN></P></BLOCKQUOTE>
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