RE: Re: Sticking point
"Kent Beck" <kent-hJ4WY/gWbur3XBa+dPFJ6Fr/[email protected]>
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| Organization | Three Rivers Institute |
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This one's going on my wall. Kent P.S. Every time I've thought I was extreme, I wasn't. Perhaps I should call myself "extreming" or "extremewards". Nah... > -----Original Message----- > From: > sentto-8233308-1114-1039706541-kent=threeriversinstitute.org@r > eturns.groups.yahoo.com > [mailto:sentto-8233308-1114-1039706541-kent=threeriversinstitu > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Laurent > Bossavit <laurent-lQPDYUS/wmpWk0Htik3J/[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 7:22 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [XC] Re: Sticking point > > > > > I am not such un-extreme but I can push myself out of a job > or out of > > a career by being too extreme. > > I've been pushed out of several jobs. In many of these jobs I had > chosen to be outspoken with my opinions, even the ones that were > controversial. Now, even if I was *certain* that the latter was a > cause of the former, I think I would still prefer to say what I > think, rather than hide my opinions to keep the job. > > The things I believe aren't even so extreme when I think about them: > - I'm not so smart that working with someone else won't improve my > work; > - I'm not so smart that I can't find ways to improve my design after > I have coded it; > - I'm smart enough to make estimates for how long my own work is > going to take; > - I'm unwilling to accept someone else's estimate of how long my work > will take, but willing to take responsibility for mine; > - code which I test thoroughly and often works better than code which > I don't test as much; > - I get better results from people I "manage" when they feel invited > to collaborate and not pressured to perform; > - I understand what customers want much better when I can talk with > them to verify my understanding. > > These are only things I believe about myself. It *may* be the case > that if many people believed that of themselves, a revolution would > ensue; and it *may* be the case that, as a consequence, voicing these > beliefs got me pushed out of some jobs. If that is so, I don't > believe I lost anything of value by losing these jobs. > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ---------------------~--> Get 128 Bit SSL Encryption! > http://us.click.yahoo.com/CBxunD/vN2EAA/xGHJAA> /NhFolB/TM > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > -------~-> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > extremecustomering-unsubscribe-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@public.gmane.org > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get 128 Bit SSL Encryption! http://us.click.yahoo.com/CBxunD/vN2EAA/xGHJAA/NhFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: extremecustomering-unsubscribe-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@public.gmane.org Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/