RE: Responsibility
"Kent Beck" <kent-hJ4WY/gWbur3XBa+dPFJ6Fr/[email protected]>
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> -----Original Message----- > From: > sentto-8233308-1141-1039733062-kent=threeriversinstitute.org@r > eturns.groups.yahoo.com > [mailto:sentto-8233308-1141-1039733062-kent=threeriversinstitu > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Arien Malec > Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 2:44 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [XC] Responsibility > > On the other hand, I agree with Mary in the following respects: > 1) The entire team needs to be responsible for providing > customer value, though the customer gets to define value. I > sometimes hear on the XP list people say: XP means that I > don't have to worry about business issues, only technical > issues. I think the entire team should be working on business > issues, with technical issues well subordinated to those > issues. (I believe Kent has written of this separation of > responsibilities as a first move to get the customer's voice > back into the process, and not the final stance) > 2) It takes some work to get down to a good understanding of > customer value, and customers often don't know how to help us > to do that. We need to do good and hard work to get to that > understanding. The common failure mode is to ask the customer > what the software should do, and come back with a list of > features, which we then implement, and wonder why the > customer isn't satisfied. Only after we understand what > drives value should we be talking about features. That last sounds a bit like phases. I might say we should continue to talk about what drives value as we explore features by implementing and deploying them. Kent ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get 128 Bit SSL Encryption! http://us.click.yahoo.com/CBxunD/vN2EAA/xGHJAA/NhFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: extremecustomering-unsubscribe-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@public.gmane.org Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/