Re: Sticking point

Stefan,

"SS" == STEURS Stefan wrote:

 >> From: Andrey Khavryuchenko [mailto:[email protected]]
 >> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 10:43 AM

 >> Please tell me _immediately_ if I dare to disrespect 
 >> somebody's free will.

 SS> I put the dynamics of a group versus the dynamics of individuals.  What
 SS> individuals want (free will) may not serve the group.

If the individuals associate themselves with the group, it will.

 SS> If we allow everyone to change anything any time, at best we get chaos
 SS> (smile), I like directed change so people pull/push/row in the same
 SS> direction.

No.  I have different experience.

People, when they find their source of power, regain the sense of control
of their free will, tend (to my experience) to state not only personal
goals, but much more larger ones... Team goals, perhaps.  Company, city,
country ones...  And these goals _are_ passionate.  And people tend to
group around them.  They have no need for someone to pull, push or row them
in any manner: they have common goal.

 >> The only thing I'm trying to do is to be honest when describing the
 >> people what they do and what consequences they get.  Then I leave them
 >> free to decide what they're going to do (and to get).  Of course, I
 >> stay nearby to support them if they need.

 SS> I think it has to be more than that, somehow there should be a
 SS> statement of direction.  I think managers need to lead and coach.

Free person can state his direction by himself.  If he'd need a coach, he'd
ask for it.

 SS>> I want to make changes happen for normal people.  I think it can be
 SS>> done.

 >> My understanding of 'normal' is being perpendicular to some surface.  I
 >> don't know what's 'normal' people.  Each person is extraordinary.
 >> Unfortunately most choose the safety of 'as usual' over results.

 SS> With normal I mean there is a norm, a mean.  I am not interested so
 SS> much in what I can to with the top of class or bottom of the league
 SS> (purely looking at how they are handling their job, not in how they
 SS> are being as a human), I am interested in "what can I do for most".

Stefan, it seems to me that you're trying to label people: top class,
bottom class, middle...

I _believe_ that each person is unique and is able to achive his/her (not
mine) success.

Thus, when somebody asks to work in my team or expresses interest in my/my
company services, I respect his will and his power.  I consider him to be
able to achieve such high standard of well... being... as I do.  That're
simple things -- be on time, fulfill your promises, value other people --
and they are simple to do, if one considers them important.

In other words, I'm not looking on them as 'most'.  I treat each as unique
and being able to fly as high as he is capable imagining.

Perhaps my message is not quite clear: English is not my native language
and putting feelings in foreign language is much harder that technical
details.  If so, ask.

 SS> There is not enough time and not enough bandwidth to get my essage
 SS> across.

It's unfortunate.  I often learn much from reading your communication with
others and much more from direct talk.

-- 
Andrey V Khavryuchenko            http://www.kds.com.ua/
Silver Bullet Software Solutions  http://www.kds.com.ua/edu/

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