Re: Sticking point

Bill,

"BW" == Bill Walton wrote:

 BW> I will start by saying you are right, IMO, to be afraid.  Be very
 BW> afraid.  I'd be willing to bet my last dollar that our friends at
 BW> Rational, now IBM, are hard at work on exactly that.  They have no
 BW> interest in selling culture change.  That's a very hard sale with a
 BW> very long sales cycle with a very low probability of success.  They
 BW> are interested in selling software and billable hours.  

I consider this 

vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
 BW> "You can get all the benefits of XP without changing anything else.
 BW> Here's the software you'll need and we have a team that can do it for
 BW> you.  We can even do it offshore to save you money!"  
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

to be bullshit.

You can't change without change.

 BW> Want to bet?


 BW> On the other hand, you have nothing, IMO, to fear from the work on
 BW> this list.  I, like Glen, am more interested in XP as an enabler of
 BW> culture change than I am in XP on its ability to produce better
 BW> software.  I'm not saying that producing better software is not
 BW> important.  I'm saying my interests are larger than that.  I'm
 BW> interested in the discovery / development of a line of reasoning, a
 BW> set of analogies, a set of examples, etc., that makes it obvious that
 BW> IT is / needs to be considered a core competency of any business in a
 BW> competitive environment.  I'm interested in XP as an enabler that
 BW> makes it easier to transform a large, slow business in to a large,
 BW> agile business.  

Ok.  You've been advised at least twice to achieve that your goal to
*actually* do XP.

What your XP project will be?
When it will start?
When we will see the observable Value?

It has not be large.  Just find a fellow programmer near you, pair with him
and share your experience as you deliver Value at the end of each
iteration.

So, what and when?

-- 
Andrey V Khavryuchenko            http://www.kds.com.ua/
Silver Bullet Software Solutions  http://www.kds.com.ua/edu/

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