Re: Re: Summing up and moving on (I hope)

"Bill Walton" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.programming.extreme-customering
Message-ID <1a3601c2a2d4$8e7ae3a0$6401a8c0@dp2000>
Andrey Khavryuchenko wrote:


> Bill,
>
> "BW" == Bill Walton wrote:
>
>  BW> My passion was, and is, discovering / developing a line of reasoning,
>  BW> a set of analogies,
>
> Tricking into?

I don't understand your question.

>  BW> and a set of evidence
>
> What kind of?

Evidence that software development is like the analogies.

>  BW> that makes a compelling case for the argument that outsourcing /
>  BW> offshoring a business' IT is short-sighted and counter to the
>  BW> business' development / maintenance of a long-term competitive
>  BW> position in their market.
>
> I disagree with this argument.

OK.  Please make your case.  Why, in your opinion, is outsourcing /
offshoring a business' IT in the best interests of the business' development
/ maintenance of its long-term competitive position in its market.

>  BW> I believe that XP and its practices may form the basis for the
>  BW> solution to problems that outsourcing "solves."  Those problems lie
in
>  BW> the business domain.  I am passionate about learning more about those
>  BW> problems.
>
> If you don't know about those problems, how do you know if outsourcing
> solves them?

I know some of the problems outsourcing purports to "solve."  Culture clash
and cost are the primary ones.  I assume there are others.

>  BW> That requires the participation of business-side folks.  I am
>  BW> passionate about removing any obstacles to their participation.
>  BW> Particularly those obstacles that may impact their willingness to
>  BW> participate.
>
> Is there anyone specific you want to invite here?  How's (s)he?  What's
> his/her name?

Yes.  In fact, I have extended invitations to some Six Sigma folks to help
with the discussion we started a bit back on whether / to what extent XP's
estimating / planning practices would find support in Six Sigma's practices.
The moderator of a Six Sigma list joined the XC list several days ago.  He
is not participating and has not responded to my back-channel email asking
if he is ready to.  I am concerned.

Best regards,
Bill


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