RE: XP and estimating

"Charlie Poole" <[email protected]> Sat, 14 Dec 2002 15:40:33 -0800
Newsgroups gmane.comp.programming.extreme-customering
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Glen,

OK, I was making a point.

Fact is, I've done very well personally in terms of the rapport I have
had with management and the coaching I've received. I did have a very
bad experience with a manager on a recent engagement, but even there,
my own personal relationship with him remained quite collegial.

But...

There has never been a time when I didn't count myself lucky for
having this rapport. There were always others around who did not get
it and who kept telling me I was lucky.

Here's my theory. In many organizations, collegiality, support and
mentoring is extended to those in the management team and doesn't
go any farther than that. I think it's related to the tendency
that some have to see "staff" as a replaceable commodity.

I'd like to change that.

> Just came from our lunch time round table. What will be the topic of the
> "lessons learned" meeting this Friday?, how can we get some of the PMO
> staff trained up on meeting skills?, what will be the topic of next
> week's "brown bag" colloquia for the .NET folks?
>
> The ONLY role for management (OK 2 roles) is to remove impediments to
> progress and provide a learning and growth environment for the staff.
>
> Cal Waller (the former President of our project site, since sadly
> deceased, and Gen. Colin Powell's Deputy) had a great saying - managers
> are "toad killers," we can't drive down the road if there are toads in
> the way. "All you managers are toad kills, and I'm the Chief Toad
> Killer. Kill them toads and let's get down the road."
>
> Any other role for a manager and he or she is simply getting in the way.
>
> Glen B. Alleman
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Charlie Poole [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 4:17 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: [XC] XP and estimating
> >
> > Bill,
> >
> > Here's a snip from something you said last week:
> >
> > > I've been thinking about the
> > > coaches role.  It seems like coaching is a part of the
> > > manager's job that rarely gets done.
> >
> > Interesting... I can imagine a culture in which managers
> > performed the role of a coach, but I don't live or
> > work in one. Do you? Do others?
> >
> > Charlie
>
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