Re: Re: Responsibility

"J. B. Rainsberger" <[email protected]> Sun, 15 Dec 2002 10:08:08 -0500
Newsgroups gmane.comp.programming.extreme-customering
Message-ID <[email protected]>
So said  Ron Jeffries  on  12/15/2002 --------------------

>On Sunday, December 15, 2002, at 8:20:45 AM, J. B. Rainsberger wrote:
>
>> I see it this way, Charlie: programmers in XP take the Customer's
>decision about what constitutes value as
>> gospel. Programmers do not estimate value; they follow the Customer's
>lead on which stories generate more value.
>> Programmers also, for the most part, don't worry about how the Customer
>decides what generates how much value,
>> because "that's a business decision".
>
>> I think the way to decide what constitutes business value is orthogonal
>to XP. XP assumes that the Customer
>> determines value "somehow".
>
>Yes. This is a good first approximation to what happens when we begin
>doing XP.
>The emergent effect is what comes as we really grow a "Whole Team".
>/Everyone/
>discusses value and proposes good ideas if they have them. And the Customer
>[subteam] determines the final priority and order of implementation.
>
>The better the Programmers understand business value, the better they will
>make
>the moment-to-moment decisions that they encounter.

I hope that I have the opportunity to experience that emergence one day. I have been ignorant of the business in past and I have been intimately aware of the business in past, but I have never gone from the former to the latter over the course of my stay in an organization. It would be very cool to experience that.

J. B. Rainsberger,
President, Diaspar Software Services
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