RE: Re: Sticking point

"Charlie Poole" <[email protected]> Tue, 17 Dec 2002 15:10:32 -0800
Newsgroups gmane.comp.programming.extreme-customering
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Glen,

> [>] Bill, I would concur that the interest for me is between business
> stakeholders. The conversation between technical and business is
> interesting but as I've stated before, unless the business folks are
> "prepared" to listen, there is a low probability that what the technical
> person has to say will be heard. By prepared to listen I mean they
> acknowledge a "felt need" to make changes. 
 
As I read your posts about what you do, it sounds to me that you are
what I would probably have called up to now a "technical manager" By
that, I would not have meant that you were working on a low level
implementing systems, but that you manage a technical process.

Of course, I would also have recognized you as business person, one
who thinks about the overall goals of his organization, what the
priorities are, does budgets, etc.

I guess I still see you as both. Am I simply missing a meaning
you place on technical (i.e. low level technical)?

> We've struggled here a bit in getting the message out about "agile," but
> working from several points of view (managers and directors, not
> developers) it is starting to stick.

I think we all agree that we aren't talking about developers. That's
the easy distinction. Are we talking about PMs - or is that too
low/technical? Are we talking about VPs of development - or is that
too technical? I'm trying to understand the scope here and I'm
still not getting it.

Charlie Poole
[email protected]
www.pooleconsulting.com
www.charliepoole.org




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