RE: Re: Sticking point
"Alleman, Glen B." <[email protected]> Tue, 17 Dec 2002 16:25:52 -0700
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Charlie, > -----Original Message----- > From: Charlie Poole [ [>] snip > > As I read your posts about what you do, it sounds to me that you are > what I would probably have called up to now a "technical manager" By > that, I would not have meant that you were working on a low level > implementing systems, but that you manage a technical process. [>] I've been a technical manager in the past. PMO's in our area are "outside" the implementation details, but we typically (aerospace, telecomm) have knowledge of what is happening inside those orgs. I get to contribute at times to the technical side. For our own tools I have support staff (DBA, Server Ops, and Admin) so I spend time with them as well. My primary role is to "herd" the projects through to completion. This includes software development and infrastructure. The secondary primary goal is Process Improvement starting with Balanced Scorecard all the way down to development methods (XP in this case). > Of course, I would also have recognized you as business person, one > who thinks about the overall goals of his organization, what the > priorities are, does budgets, etc. [>] The IT budgets all reside inside the PMO. > I guess I still see you as both. Am I simply missing a meaning > you place on technical (i.e. low level technical)? [>] The technical folks have to make all this work. So I (we the PMO) spend lots of time listening to them and interpreting their needs inside our business constraints. > > We've struggled here a bit in getting the message out about "agile," but > > working from several points of view (managers and directors, not > > developers) it is starting to stick. > > I think we all agree that we aren't talking about developers. That's > the easy distinction. Are we talking about PMs - or is that too > low/technical? Are we talking about VPs of development - or is that > too technical? I'm trying to understand the scope here and I'm > still not getting it. [>] No PM's is the entry point for my org. I see developers all day, but we really don't spend much time talking about strategy, more getting a feel for the progress our process improvements are making (or not making). The development team reports to the Deputy CIO. I'm his peer. We have a CTO, PMO, and Deputy CIO. > Charlie Glen B. Alleman ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get 128 Bit SSL Encryption! http://us.click.yahoo.com/CBxunD/vN2EAA/xGHJAA/NhFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: extremecustomering-unsubscribe-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@public.gmane.org Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/