Re: Six Sigma and XP Estimation / Planning - thanks, Charlie Poole
"Eric <poetengineer-/[email protected]>" <poetengineer-/[email protected]> Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:20:19 -0000
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Many thanks to Charlie Poole, who sent me a link to a tutorial on XP. As I look it over, I see a strong similarity to Six Sigma both in the steps in the process and in the intent. I'll try to send out a message on this a bit later. I still don't have a handle on the tie between Extreme Programming and Extreme Customering - are these synonyms? Best regards, Eric --- In [email protected], "Eric <[email protected]>" <poetengineer@y...> wrote: > Bill, Thanks for the introduction. I have to admit that I'm a > complete novice in terms of XP, and I wonder if someone can > help me with either a brief overview of XP and Extreme > Customering, or perhaps a tutorial on it that I might be able to > access on the web. > > I don't even understand yet the relationship between XP and > Extreme Customering - whether these are synonyms, or whether > Extreme Customering is part of XP or vice versa. > > I look forward to discussing the possible convergence of Six > Sigma and Extreme Customering and/or XP, and I hope you will > be patient with me as I try to gain familiarity with the concepts > and terminology of XP. > > Best regards, > Eric Maass > > > --- In [email protected], "Bill Walton" > <[email protected]> wrote: > > We're joined now by a real Six Sigma guru. His name is Eric > Maass. Eric is Director of Technology Strategy for Motorola's > Wireless and Broadband Systems Group. At the same time, he > is Chairman of the Six Sigma Black Belts Steering Committee for > Motorola's Semiconductor Products Sector. He has a web page > at http://www.geocities.com/ecmaass/ for anyone who wants to > check out his CV. In a conversation with another 6S guru who > hasn't had time to join us I was told "I think you hit the nail on the > head. The future is really in a balanced mix of XP and Six Sigma." > So I have some high hopes that, in talking with Eric, we may find > that XP has an ally in 6S that could bridge some communication > gaps with organizations that are doing 6S, or at least think highly > of it, but who don't know as much about XP. > > > > I posed a question earlier about whether / to what extent XP > would find support for it's estimating / planning practices in a Six > Sigma environment. In particular, I'm wondering about the > practice of committing to a velocity for iteration X that's equal to > the velocity achieved in iteration X-1. As I said earlier, I have a > feeling that could be perceived as "shooting low." I wonder if > 6S's statistical underpinnings might recommend a different > approach that wouldn't put any more pressure on the > development team re: unrealistic committments but, at the same > time, answer this question plus the question about whether / > how many stories should be estimated and in the queue in case > the team accomplishes more than initially committed in an > iteration. I also tend to think XP's practice of picking a "best > guess" at an initial velocity and then adjusting based on actual > results (as opposed to trying to develop a long term timeline that > will be difficult to adjust, etc.) may find support in 6S in the > context of establishing a baseline. > > > > Eric is new to XP and has expressed a need to come up to > speed on the practices and the terminology. I thought it would > be best, since practices are evolving, since there seems to be > some variation in practice, and since I'm still researching XP as > opposed to actually doing it, to ask you guys to explain the > estimating / planning practices you use. Or, if you like, I could > explain it as I understand it from my readings and talking to you > here and let you correct me as necessary. > > > > Best regards, > > Bill ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get 128 Bit SSL Encryption! http://us.click.yahoo.com/CBxunD/vN2EAA/xGHJAA/NhFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: extremecustomering-unsubscribe-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@public.gmane.org Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/