RE: Moving on

STEURS Stefan <[email protected]> Mon, 6 Jan 2003 08:59:56 +0100
Newsgroups gmane.comp.programming.extreme-customering
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: J. B. Rainsberger [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 8:18 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [XC] Moving on

[snip]

> [Unsubstantiated claim. Apply salt as needed.] The vast 
> majority of us don't work in satefy- and life-critical 
> systems, so we share that essential context: the cost of 
> failure is, at worst, losing our job.

I think that is a sorry statement to make, lots of salt needed.  The cost of
failure implies a cost for society.  I do not work in safety or
life-critical systems but a mistake can mean a lot of suffering for a lot of
people down the line, even if this suffering translates to "having to wait".
If pensioners have to wait for their pay-check, if people have to wait for
their train to arrive, if you have traffic jams because the traffic lights
system is belly-up, ... it all has a cost.  No safety or life critical
systems?  That's too trivial a statement to make.

[snip]
> 
> Well, I see it as a losing game:
> 
> * Big businessmen expect us to give them real-world 
> experience to back up our claims
> * Big business appear to react better to large-scale academic 
> studies, rather than real-world experience on a small scale

I think scaling is the problem.  I am yet not convinced that all XP
practices are scalable.  I see some that can be applied regardless of
context but I see others that are very context sensitive.  I think that even
some of these context variables are mentioned in the introduction of XP.

> J. B. Rainsberger,
> President, Diaspar Software Services
> Let's write software that people understand.
> http://www.diasparsoftware.com/
> telephone: +1 416 791-8603
> All correspondence (c) 2002 Diaspar Software Services.
> If you want to use it, just ask; don't steal.
> 
Regards, Stefan Steurs.


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