Re: Re: Digest Number 130

"J. B. Rainsberger" <[email protected]> Fri, 09 Jan 2004 18:58:22 -0500
Newsgroups gmane.comp.programming.extreme-programming.adoption
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Ron Jeffries wrote:

> On Friday, January 9, 2004, at 3:52:54 PM, J. B. Rainsberger wrote:
> 
>  > This is just what I've experienced. I don't know what it means. What it
>  > /encourages/ me to do, however, is never take business responsibility
>  > for delivering software with programmers that aren't /mine/. What's left
>  > is what I'm terming the Business interface: stories, priority, release
>  > schedule, cost per iteration, and the like.
> 
> Good story, and I understand. I might, for myself, say something rather
> similar: never take business responsibility for delivering software with a
> process that isn't entirely mine, including hiring/firing.
> 
> Of course we can't always get that deal. But otherwise we're talking about
> responsibility without matching authority -- and that's Known Bad
> Territory.

All right, so to force me to dip my toes into that murky water, I 
essentially have to be desperate to the point of not being able to earn 
a living otherwise. (Fortunately, in the worst case, I can always tutor 
high school mathematics for my wife....) This means that I, for one, 
will never cause any improvement in this general situation. If it all 
depended on me, then non-Agile teams wouldn't become Agile teams any 
more quickly than it is happening now.

Questions.

Can /anyone/ make it go faster?
If so, who's trying to do it?

But if not, then I guess I was just born at the wrong time and I should 
just quit, keep bees and grow asparagus.
-- 
J. B. Rainsberger,
Diaspar Software Services
http://www.diasparsoftware.com :: +1 416 791-8603
Let's write software that people understand


 

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