Re: Digest Number 135
"Jorge Diz" <[email protected]> Tue, 13 Jan 2004 17:48:47 -0000
| Newsgroups | gmane.comp.programming.extreme-programming.adoption |
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Mike: In a former life, I used to work close to the real end users for whom I developed, many times as a team of one. I really enjoy working close to the customer, and interpersonal communication was usually not an issue. But, all the projects I have worked on the last 2 years were remote. The closest thing I get to a customer is a technical person from the company we develop software for. I am part of a team located in Brazil, and my "customer" is elsewhere (usually in the USA). Clearly, this is not an ideal situation. However, I found it makes a *lot* of difference who you interface with. The communication abilities of the one who is in a remote place are apparent, even if you never meet him/her in person, and are somewhat independent of the bandwidth or medium. We use e-mail, NetMeeting, instant messaging and voice in conference calls. A bad communicator doesn't make good use of what is available; a person who really wants to communicate adapts to adverse conditions. I have interacted with the two types. The bad communicators were the clear majority: it is not clear to me whether this is due to corporate culture, to the fact that I never met these people face-to-face or them being technical persons. The most successful and enjoyable project in these 2 years was the one in which our technical point of contact was a good communicator. I think this is not a coincidence. In this project we talked daily, and both sides developed a sense of mutual confidence that allowed the project to succeed. For me, it is hard to forget that communication is essential. I have never really believed in remote development. Jorge --- In [email protected], Mike Johnson <father@b...> wrote: > Forgive the nerdish lack for understanding the reference... > angler/fishing? > > Most of my projects are done remotely (XP and/or otherwise), and I've > noticed that continuous communication is really important - regardless > of topic... keeping the lines open just allows more opportunities for > work to slip in... Any project that had less that two days a week of > talking with a customer dies... the ones that really fly are daily - > even if you aren't 100% on topic. > > I thought this was a fundamental idea behind XP - creation is a > continuous dialog... surprisingly, its easy to forget when working > remotely.. > > I hope I didn't sound like I was fishing. > > Mike > > > > [email protected] wrote: > > >There is 1 message in this issue. > > > >Topics in this digest: > > > > 1. Re: Drummer > > From: George Paci <george@r...> > > > > > >_____________________________________________________________________ ___ > >_____________________________________________________________________ ___ > > > >Message: 1 > > Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:57:11 -0500 > > From: George Paci <george@r...> > >Subject: Re: Drummer > > > >Mike Johnson wrote: > > > > > > > >>Having run a few groups in my time, You need to have a "drummer" who > >>keeps asking questions, you need a weekly IM meeting, even if just to > >>talk about the kids and stuff... > >> > >> > > > >OK. Anyone here have glow-in-the-dark skin? Or live undersea? > > > >--George Paci > > We used to play Return to Castle Wolfenstein after hours, and it did > > a lot for the whole "I got your back" mentality in the office. > > -- http://slashdot.org/~Marsala > > > > > > > > > >_____________________________________________________________________ ___ > >_____________________________________________________________________ ___ > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >To visit your group on the web, go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xpAdoption/ > > > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > [email protected] > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xpAdoption/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/