RE: Managing Extreme Programming
"Dinwiddie, George" <[email protected]>
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Steve Ropa said: > 1. There are very definite terminology gaps between > "professional managers" and "professional programmers" and we > need to find ways to bridge them. I agree. That's why I'm in this conversation > 2. There is a definite hostility towards those who use a > different terminology. > > I thought Glen's posting was an excellent one to feed the > discussion of how to manage an XP group. I would also like > to turn your last paragraph back at you. I know quite a few > "traditional" managers who would say "What do you mean by > Continuous Integration, Common Code Ownership, Refactoring? > Is this just another case of you trying to impress me with > your 'techno-babble'? If so, I'll just have to add you to my > twit-list." Is "hostility towards those who use a different terminology" a general case? In any event, a more accurate description of this incident is "annoyance towards those who don't explain their terminology." If this were the first time I was asking Glen to explain his terms, or if he had been forthcoming with explanations on previous occasions, then I would not have this annoyance coupled with my questions. Past history, however, is making me question whether he wants to discuss things with me or whether he wants to impress me with his importance and knowledge. > Surely Glen wasn't playing power-games. I really think the > points he raises are good ones for further discussion. I'm sure they are good points for discussion. That's why I asked for explanation of what they are. Speaking in ways that will not be understood is a way of squelching discussion--"winning" by preventing the other person from making meaningful comments. I don't like that game. I don't want to "win" or "lose" the discussion. I want to communicate--to learn and to teach. - George ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Turn flat surfaces into speakers with the Soundbug. http://us.click.yahoo.com/QWAVSC/onCFAA/xGHJAA/nhFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/