RE: Re: Do C-Level managers, and business drivers really need to know about XP?
"Alleman, Glen B." <[email protected]> Wed, 12 Feb 2003 09:55:30 -0700
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Steve, We have a formed BoldTech employee here. At BT they had "chargeable" background projects, complete with plans and schedules. When "background" work was available (non-billable hours available), the person(s) went to work this background stuff, just like working on billable. There were project schedules, resources assignments, story cards, and the whole XP process. Glen B. Alleman VP, Program Management Office Information Technology CH2M HILL Rocky Flats Environmental Technology Site 10808 Highway 93, Unit B, Bldg 060, MV72 Golden, Colorado 80502 Office: 303.966.5865 Nextel: 303.994.0874 [email protected] > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Ropa [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 3:46 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [xpAdoption] Re: Do C-Level managers, and business drivers > really need to know about XP? > > Sadly, I don't know. I am inclined to think yes. > > Case in point. I have a list of "background projects" that are freely > available for anyone who is not currently on a billable task. The idea is > that, if you aren't billable, look for something in here that is > interesting and work on it. Its pretty low pressure because these are all > nice to have experimental projects. > > I am continually engaging in exchanges like: > > "Steve, I don't have any billable work, what should I do?" > "Have you picked a background project?" > "No, which one should I do?" > "I don't know, what looks interesting?" > "I don't know which one do you want me to do?" > "Why don't you go take a look and see if anything is interesting. Let me > know ifyou have any questions." > "Well....ok" > A day or two later: > "Steve, what should I do?" > "Did you finish up on the background project?" > "You didn't tell me which one to do..." > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ron Jeffries [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 3:34 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [xpAdoption] Re: Do C-Level managers, and > > business drivers > > really need to know about XP? > > > > > > On Tuesday, February 11, 2003, at 2:54:40 PM, Steve Ropa wrote: > > > > >> "I'm not going to do that. You know your abilities better > > >> than I do. Your > > >> next mission is to sign up for the work. Begin now." > > >> > > >> > > > After a year of trying that, I gave up and just started > > assigning work. I still discuss with each > > > programmer first, and have proven to them that they have > > the opportunity to opt out. Not a satisfactory > > > answer, but its where we currently stand. I haven't given > > up, but I have definitely fallen back to regroup. > > > > If you had waited, would everyone have just stopped working? > > > > Ron Jeffries > > www.XProgramming.com > > Speculation or experimentation - which is more likely to give > > the correct answer? > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ---------------------~--> > > Get 128 Bit SSL Encryption! > > http://us.click.yahoo.com/LIgTpC/vN2EAA/xGHJAA/nhFolB/TM > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > -------~-> > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [email protected] > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/