RE: Re: Do C-Level managers, and business drivers really need to know about XP?

"Alleman, Glen B." <[email protected]> Wed, 12 Feb 2003 09:55:30 -0700
Newsgroups gmane.comp.programming.extreme-programming.adoption
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Steve,

We have a formed BoldTech employee here. At BT they had "chargeable"
background projects, complete with plans and schedules. When
"background" work was available (non-billable hours available), the
person(s) went to work this background stuff, just like working on
billable.

There were project schedules, resources assignments, story cards, and
the whole XP process. 

Glen B. Alleman
VP, Program Management Office
Information Technology
CH2M HILL
Rocky Flats Environmental Technology Site
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Golden, Colorado 80502
Office: 303.966.5865  Nextel: 303.994.0874 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Ropa [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 3:46 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [xpAdoption] Re: Do C-Level managers, and business
drivers
> really need to know about XP?
> 
> Sadly, I don't know.  I am inclined to think yes.
> 
> Case in point.  I have a list of "background projects" that are freely
> available for anyone who is not currently on a billable task.  The
idea is
> that, if you aren't billable, look for something in here that is
> interesting and work on it.  Its pretty low pressure because these are
all
> nice to have experimental projects.
> 
> I am continually engaging in exchanges like:
> 
> "Steve, I don't have any billable work, what should I do?"
> "Have you picked a background project?"
> "No, which one should I do?"
> "I don't know, what looks interesting?"
> "I don't know which one do you want me to do?"
> "Why don't you go take a look and see if anything is interesting.  Let
me
> know ifyou have any questions."
> "Well....ok"
> A day or two later:
> "Steve, what should I do?"
> "Did you finish up on the background project?"
> "You didn't tell me which one to do..."
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ron Jeffries [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 3:34 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [xpAdoption] Re: Do C-Level managers, and
> > business drivers
> > really need to know about XP?
> >
> >
> > On Tuesday, February 11, 2003, at 2:54:40 PM, Steve Ropa wrote:
> >
> > >> "I'm not going to do that. You know your abilities better
> > >> than I do. Your
> > >> next mission is to sign up for the work. Begin now."
> > >>
> > >>
> > > After a year of trying that, I gave up and just started
> > assigning work.  I still discuss with each
> > > programmer first, and have proven to them that they have
> > the opportunity to opt out.  Not a satisfactory
> > > answer, but its where we currently stand.  I haven't given
> > up, but I have definitely fallen back to regroup.
> >
> > If you had waited, would everyone have just stopped working?
> >
> > Ron Jeffries
> > www.XProgramming.com
> > Speculation or experimentation - which is more likely to give
> > the correct answer?
> >
> >
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