RE: Teams Leaders what are they, and do we need them? - Extension from Re: Re: Do C-Level managers, and business

"Steve Ropa" <[email protected]> Mon, 17 Feb 2003 13:26:35 -0700
Newsgroups gmane.comp.programming.extreme-programming.adoption
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Laurent Bossavit [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 1:14 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Teams Leaders what are they, and do we need them? -
> Extension from Re: [xpAdoption] Re: Do C-Level managers, and business
> 
> 
> > i've seen developers take advantage of managers with no 
> real technical
> > experience, 
> 
> I would expect that a manager with real managerial experience would 
> not let herself be taken advantage of in that way...
> 
> ...or at any rate, not twice.
> 
> > and i've seen technical managers get in the way of the developers. 
> 
> Similarly, managers who "get in the way" hardly deserve the title. 
> DeMarco's Second Law of Bad Management...
> 
> I've just thought of another difference between "managers" and 
> "leaders". You couldn't have a team composed only of managers, 
> because no one would do the work; but you might well have an all-
> leader team.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
I would fear an all-leader team.  The first time they want to go in separate directions, and of course instinctively expect everyone to follow...

I also think the manager would be valuable(in this context) as we seem to be saying all of the administrivia and business oriented stuff would best be handled by a manager.

Steve

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