RE: Teams Leaders what are they, and do we need them? - Extension from Re: [xpAdopti

Charlie

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charlie Poole [mailto:[email protected]]
> Subject: RE: [xpAdoption] Teams Leaders what are they, and do we need
> them? - Extension from Re: [xpAdopti
> 
> Glen,
> 
> > We have a traditional hierarchy with VP's, Directors, and Managers.
Our
> > senior management team "acts" as a collective with each providing
> > specific roles and capabilities. This team is lead by the CIO, BUT
there
> > is not a single "leader" on this team. It functions by sharing the
> > leadership roles. Only the tough (legal, regulation, high dollar)
> > decisions get close scrutiny of the single "leader." Otherwise no
work
> > would get done.
> 
> You seem to be saying there is no one person who tells the team what
> to do or approves all the decisions. I wouldn't call this not having
> a "leader" and I don't think it reflects what others have seemed to
> mean when talking about leadership skills.

[>] You're somewhat correct, there is no "one" person except when there
needs to be. We each manage vertical areas and have our clear and
concise objectives through Balanced Scorecard (BSC) so there are few
opportunities to get confused about the outcome.

I can't emphasize this enough that with up front goals and objectives
that turn into initiatives, them projects, then down to tasks all that
"group decision" stuff is made clear and concise and most of the
directing actions of management go away on a day to day basis.

> [Of course, you can mean what you mean by the word while I'll keep on
> meaning what I mean, but I think it might help us to recognize that
> even though two people may distinguish between "management" and
> "leadership"  they may not be making the same distinction.]

[>] Uh?? Try to find the HBR Leadership book. Most mainstream book
stores have the HBR series. It really is worth the effort, since it will
establish an independent context for leadership and management.

> Not knowing your situation, I'd have to assume that as specific issues
> arise, the appropriate leader - in my meaning of the term - steps
forward
> to make the team function, without anyone telling them to do so. I
believe
> the same thing happens quite naturally at lower levels in the
organization
> but that management often thwarts this behavior by trying to appoint
the
> "leaders."

[>] Agreed in principle. The problem is who is the designated leader? If
everyone steps forward with conflicting ideas in your world how are they
resolved with the minimum of effort and the maximum of benefit? We have
decision making processes that are very formal when it comes to spending
money, safety (nuclear safety), security, and regulatory compliance. On
the other hand if these domains don't enter into the discussion than
local (private) decision processes can be made by a local "leader."\
> Charlie 

[>]Glen B. Alleman

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