RE: Teams Leaders what are they, and do we need them? - Extension from Re: [xpAdopti
"Steve Ropa" <[email protected]> Fri, 21 Feb 2003 08:17:56 -0700
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I wonder how rare it really is. You hear so much about managers who are anything but leaders, but I wonder if that is just because that's more funny. Sort of a Dilbert effect. Which leads me to two questions: Is it really that rare for a manager to also be a leader, and if so, is this unique to our industry? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 11:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [xpAdoption] Teams Leaders what are they, and do we need them? - Extension from Re: [xpAdopti true, it is very rare for a manager to also be a leader Scott worley ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Ropa <mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 11:36 PM Subject: RE: [xpAdoption] Teams Leaders what are they, and do we need them? - Extension from Re: [xpAdopti Hi Scott, I agree on the manager front, but leaders are a different breed. One of the desirable outcomes of leaders is that folks are enabled, but I don't think that is the leader's task. I think her task is to "blaze the trail" and set examples. As has been stated here by many better spoken than myself, leaders aren't really appointed, they emerge. Managers are appointed. Sometimes, we are lucky and the manager is also a leader. That has always been my goal as a manager. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 7:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [xpAdoption] Teams Leaders what are they, and do we need them? - Extension from Re: [xpAdopti Importance: High Leaders should not lead, managers should not manage. They ENABLE! Scott Worley yup evangelising agile things yet again ----- Original Message ----- From: ">Dale Emery <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 5:11 AM Subject: [xpAdoption] Teams Leaders what are they, and do we need them? - Extension from Re: [xpAdopti Hi Steve, > I would fear an all-leader team. The first time they want to go in > separate directions, and of course instinctively expect everyone to > follow... In my view, a good leader would not to expect everyone to follow. Dale To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Service. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <http://rd.yahoo.com/M=245454.2994396.4323964.2848452/D=egroupweb/S=1705007207:HM/A=1457554/R=0/*http://ipunda.com/clk/beibunmaisuiyuiwabei> <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=245454.2994396.4323964.2848452/D=egroupmail/S=:HM/A=1457554/rand=376788995> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .