Re: Strange agile articles

Hello Massimo,


The article linked is not from a scrum alliance trainer. Anyone can submit
an article to the scrum alliance for posting. No idea how this one got past
the reviewers, probably because the staff are mostly event planners and
support staff, not trainers and coaches, we are all free range. I don't
know if it will be removed, however I think it does not belong on that site.


If you want to read what trainers and coaches are saying read the comments,
which are highly critical and go on far longer than the article, look for
CST or CEC in their handle.


Also would like to point out that there are CSTs like myself who have been
on this list (and many others) for a decade. Thanks to the efforts of
numerous people here the Scrum Alliance offers technical training in TDD,
CI, pairing, refactoring, etc, sometimes taught by people on this list. It
is also by far the hardest training to sell, as developers would rather
learn a new tool (ie swift, aws, oracle) then learn to test drive their
code.


My opinion is the article is a POS, and certainly does not represent the
opinion of any agilists who I know and respect.


Any change effort suffers from relabelling, where people attach the new
labels to old roles and behaviors. We see this often in Agile adoption.
Learning new behaviors is hard and takes time. It often also requires
structural changes to the organization. Most of the hard changes needed,
like eliminating silos (ie separate testing dept) have little to do with
XP. They are organizational design problems that stem from legacy
structures and mindset, like those on display in this article.


Robin Dymond, CST
Managing Partner, Innovel
www.innovel.net
www.scrumtraining.com
Direct: (804) 239-4329
twitter: @robindymond
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robindymond


On Oct 10, 2016 8:01 AM, "Massimo Manca [email protected]
[extremeprogramming]" <[email protected]> wrote:
There are other funny folks promoting Prince2 and Prince2-Agile as agile
project management processes.
I used Prince2 in the past because in UK and West Europe is a common
requirement in public tenders but I didn't see any agility in it. They
just write down how to organize and manage a project with the lesson of
the "old school" and maintaining a hierarchical structure.
Instead I know Prince2-Agile only because when was published I received
the booklet. Seems to me an old "command and control" PM over SCRUM so
is a heavier SCRUM defining much more roles and using stages and
milestones to control the project status.
I am interested also to hear comments on them.


Il 10/10/2016 03:01, Charlie Poole [email protected]
[extremeprogramming] ha scritto:

>
> I particularly enjoyed this...
>
> > The Agile Scorecard is a reflection of disciplined "Agile values"
>
> The author was quite right to put "Agile values" in quotation marks,
> apparently wanting us to understand that this is a parody, or so one
> can only hope. :-)
>
> Charlie
>
> On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 4:08 PM, Massimo Manca
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> [extremeprogramming] <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I think you have LinkedIn profiles as me, so may be you already read
> these things but in the last couple of days happened that several
> trainers published articles about agile processes introducing measures
> and artifacts having nothing to do with agile.
>
> This is the link to the worst one published by scrumalliance.org
> <http://scrumalliance.org> (but I
> know it because I found a post on LinkedIn).
>
> https://www.scrumalliance.org/community/articles/2016/octobe
r/the-agile-scorecard?feed=articles
> <https://www.scrumalliance.org/community/articles/2016/octob
er/the-agile-scorecard?feed=articles>
>
> There is also this post about a way to manage projects in a way
> that is
> a mix of agile and old fashion project management:
>
> https://www.linkedin.com/nhome/updates?activity=619071041247
2827904&goback=&trk=hb_ntf_REPLIED_TO_YOUR_COMMENT
> <https://www.linkedin.com/nhome/updates?activity=61907104124
72827904&goback=&trk=hb_ntf_REPLIED_TO_YOUR_COMMENT>
>
> I think we could discuss a little bit about these facts and trying to
> understand why happened.
> Do you agree?
>
> Massimo
>
>
>
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