Re: [extremeprogramming] Origin of term "standup"?

"Tim Ottinger via Groups.Io" <[email protected]> Mon, 18 Nov 2019 17:55:06 +0000 (UTC)
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https://www.industriallogic.com/blog/over-starting-and-under-finishing/ 
this is better than 90% of what I see in the wild. When we go to it, the usual complaint is “I didn’t get to talk about the work I am doing that isn’t on the board” and then we either put it on the board (transparency?) or else we open up before walking the board for learnings/problems/needs/etc.
Tim



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On Monday, November 18, 2019, 2:43 AM, Douglas Waugh <[email protected]> wrote:

Alex, 
I’d be interested in your opinion of what makes a very good stand up and what makes a harmful one.
Would you be able to give us a few pointers?  What is the main value you see the stand up providing?
Douglas
 From: [email protected] on behalf of Alex Fürstenau <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 11:50 am
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Subject: Re: [extremeprogramming] Origin of term "standup"? I still believe they are valuable for „teams“ who don’t talk to each other for weeks, and as always I have seen some very good implementations over the years.
Of cause there are also a lot of harmful implementations but I think the value of the good ones outweigh the value of the bad ones.


Am 13.11.2019 um 23:53 schrieb John Carter via Groups.Io <[email protected]>:
It's one of those things that  seem to have gone horribly horribly wrong out in the wild.....
Way back when, when I still believed standups  to be a Good Idea, people came together, and didn't bother to sit because it was going to be so short.
They said, mostly by pointing at/moving the sticky on the board what they were working on, and if they were stuck, asked for help. (Which wasn't given in the standup)

Done.
Back to work.
2 minutes max, all done.

Sigh!

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 6:53 AM George Paci <[email protected]> wrote:

All,

Glad to see this group getting saved from oblivion: thanks, Joe!

An interesting question came up at work today: where did the term 
"standup" originate?

I've found a reference from Jeff Sutherland explaining the origins of 
the meeting (and the practice of standing up), but he doesn't explicitly 
claim to have invented the name:

https://www.scruminc.com/origins-daily-standup/

I see it mentioned on Don Wells's XP site with a 1999 copyright, but I'm 
not sure that's an accurate date:

http://www.extremeprogramming.org/rules/standupmeeting.html

(and he keeps them as two words: "Stand Up").

I figure Laurent would know this off the top of his head.... :-)

—George Paci

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