Re: [extremeprogramming] Origin of term "standup"?
"Tim Ottinger via Groups.Io" <[email protected]> Mon, 18 Nov 2019 17:55:06 +0000 (UTC)
| Newsgroups | gmane.comp.programming.extreme-programming |
|---|---|
| Message-ID | <[email protected]> |
https://www.industriallogic.com/blog/over-starting-and-under-finishing/ this is better than 90% of what I see in the wild. When we go to it, the usual complaint is “I didn’t get to talk about the work I am doing that isn’t on the board” and then we either put it on the board (transparency?) or else we open up before walking the board for learnings/problems/needs/etc. Tim Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad On Monday, November 18, 2019, 2:43 AM, Douglas Waugh <[email protected]> wrote: Alex, I’d be interested in your opinion of what makes a very good stand up and what makes a harmful one. Would you be able to give us a few pointers? What is the main value you see the stand up providing? Douglas From: [email protected] on behalf of Alex Fürstenau <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 11:50 am To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [extremeprogramming] Origin of term "standup"? I still believe they are valuable for „teams“ who don’t talk to each other for weeks, and as always I have seen some very good implementations over the years. Of cause there are also a lot of harmful implementations but I think the value of the good ones outweigh the value of the bad ones. Am 13.11.2019 um 23:53 schrieb John Carter via Groups.Io <[email protected]>: It's one of those things that seem to have gone horribly horribly wrong out in the wild..... Way back when, when I still believed standups to be a Good Idea, people came together, and didn't bother to sit because it was going to be so short. They said, mostly by pointing at/moving the sticky on the board what they were working on, and if they were stuck, asked for help. (Which wasn't given in the standup) Done. Back to work. 2 minutes max, all done. Sigh! On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 6:53 AM George Paci <[email protected]> wrote: All, Glad to see this group getting saved from oblivion: thanks, Joe! An interesting question came up at work today: where did the term "standup" originate? I've found a reference from Jeff Sutherland explaining the origins of the meeting (and the practice of standing up), but he doesn't explicitly claim to have invented the name: https://www.scruminc.com/origins-daily-standup/ I see it mentioned on Don Wells's XP site with a 1999 copyright, but I'm not sure that's an accurate date: http://www.extremeprogramming.org/rules/standupmeeting.html (and he keeps them as two words: "Stand Up"). I figure Laurent would know this off the top of his head.... :-) —George Paci Doing Agile since (a month) before it was called Agile -- John Carter Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639 Tait Electronics PO Box 1645 Christchurch New Zealand This Communication is Confidential. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at www.taitradio.com/email_ disclaimer -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#160205): https://groups.io/g/extremeprogramming/message/160205 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/56090734/2417047 Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/extremeprogramming/leave/4902963/619838065/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-