Re: [extremeprogramming] Origin of term "standup"?

If there are blockers, then waiting until the next meeting is pointless. There should be impromptu chats and people should swarm as necessary; hard if they all have individual assignments or don’t actually see each other much.

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On Monday, November 18, 2019, 12:05 PM, Steve Gordon <[email protected]> wrote:

If there really are no blockers, then it is kind of pointless.  
If there are blockers, a tool is likely less useful than face-to-face.  In particular, when there are issues that are not quite blockers, body language will often reveal it, whereas a tool just says no blockers.
On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 10:52 AM Tim Ottinger via Groups.Io <[email protected]> wrote:

Status meetings can be done via tools. 
I don’t need to hear “i worked on 4534 after finishing 4640 yesterday. Today I’ll be working on 4534 some more. No blockers” 
I certainly don’t want to talk about all the cards on the wall. 
I want to plan the day’s attack and hear what we can do to be most useful to each other and the goal of the project. I don’t want a ticket status report.  Like everyone else at the meeting, I’ll be trying to look interested while waiting my turn to speak, then trying to look interested until I can go back to work.
How much do I really care about the 80% status on ticket 7763? I don’t know what any of these numbers mean anyway. And if I’m not going to work on it today why is it my problem? 
Unloading a lot of baggage, I know, but status meetings as I see them at so many corporations are precisely that.
“Cindy?”“Worked on 3345 yesterday. Working on it still. No blockers.”“What percent done?”“Maybe 75.”“Okay, Bob?”“I worked on 4356 yesterday. I’ll probably finish it today. No blockers”“Okay, Ish?”“Still working on 7721. No blockers. Maybe 80% done.” “Okay, Priti?”
Yaaaaaaaawn.




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On Monday, November 18, 2019, 11:45 AM, Ron Jeffries <[email protected]> wrote:

why?

sent from iPad, probably via Mars. Errors, if any, are not [email protected] is a better address for me, maybe.

On Nov 18, 2019, at 12:44 PM, Tim Ottinger via Groups.Io <[email protected]> wrote:



Ew.Yuck. Count me out, please












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