Re: [extremeprogramming] Origin of term "standup"?

Hmm ...

There's a lot of "should" and "should not" in this thread. Here's some more.

If the team needs to know what everyone worked on yesterday, then they should talk about it. In particular, if all the stories are right-sized and WIP > 1, most reports will be "Jane and I got FUBAR done", "yay!!", "and we plan to stay together today and pull BOOGA". Then if Sam and Dave were also thinking BOOGA, they can play scissors stone paper or whatever. Even with a status board, a little celebration of progress, verbal pat on the back can be valuable. A sense of where people are going, what people have noticed, ditto. IM~HO.

Not all blockers should be interrupts. "While we were working on FUBAR we noticed that the classes in the Barring module are getting a bit crufty. We didn't have any changes in Barring, just used it, so we didn't refactor. We'll put a Barring card in the Refactoring box on the board, and anyone going in there should take a look. Either of us could help."

I happen not to believe that a mobbing WIP=1 team doesn't need stand ups, despite all the BS about everyone always knowing everything, because stand ups aren't just about knowing what happened yesterday, they are about what's going to happen today, and overnight some people will have had ideas or meetings or been bitten by snakes and some kind of warmup for the day is needed. I suspect that one problem mode for mobs is a loss of strategic view, with a concomitant loss of creative solutions to the real issues. All this is speculative as I have only semi-mobbed, but I've seen even non-mobbing teams get their nose too close to the centerline. 100% team alignment is probably not really good.

My original question, however, had to do with the reaction "Ew" to “The whole team meets every day for a quick status update. We stand up to keep the meeting short.” ISTM that for that sentence to deserve an "Ew", the only possibilities are that the whole team already knows everything (unlikely) or that no, they don't need to know where they're at.

It might be important to fix a boring meeting, although it might not rise to the level of irritation to be worth a lot of attention. Sort of thing a few words might adjust. 

Ron Jeffries
ronjeffries.com <http://ronjeffries.com/>They’re not anecdotes, that’s small batch artisanal data. — Sara (@pikelet)


-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group.

View/Reply Online (#160215): https://groups.io/g/extremeprogramming/message/160215
Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/56090734/2417047
Group Owner: [email protected]
Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/extremeprogramming/leave/4902963/619838065/xyzzy  [[email protected]]
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-