Re: [extremeprogramming] Good source for XP success stories?

"Steve Gordon" <[email protected]> Mon, 25 Nov 2019 11:13:50 -0700
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The team is the expert in what techniques work for them, not management and
not even their customers, so they need to own their process details.

Does management tell the accountants or lawyers or janitors or security
guards or mail room how to do their jobs?  Or do they just provide inputs,
constraints, and feedback on results?

On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 10:55 AM Tim Ottinger via Groups.Io <linux_tim=
[email protected]> wrote:

> Oh, yes, the "optics" -- you must always look like you're following the
> process.
> Success Theater is exhausting, but it's one of the few ways you can
> guarantee Role Success, especially considering the Law of the 2nd Floor.
>
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> On Monday, November 25, 2019, 11:13:55 AM CST, Steve Gordon <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> I believe XP works much better if the rest of the organization believes
> the teams are doing Scrum.  Each team should own its engineering process,
> not the organization.
>
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 8:30 AM Tim Ottinger via Groups.Io <linux_tim=
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Personally I think it’s interesting but unhelpful:
> XP works.
> Scrum works with XP.
> Scrum doesn’t work as well without XP.
> Maybe it’s not scrum that works, but XP all along.
>
> But overall, I’m not trying to get people to convert to XP as an approach.
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