RE : [SK] A New Keyhole Type!
"Christophe Addinquy" <Christophe.Addinquy-7+TMkytGX/[email protected]> Sun, 28 Aug 2005 10:35:12 +0200
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This stuff reminds me one key idea of the Jeff Raskin exposed in "The = Human Interface": everything ona computer should be modless ! By = modless, Raskin think no only about dialog boxes, but also abut working = context ! It means the computer behavior or the way we use keyboard, = mouse, etc.. should not depend on the fact we are using an "edit mode" = or not, or even one application or another ! Raskin even follow his = though to the end of the road: power "on" or "off" is even considered as = a mode ! I would say: when we think about it, it's really disturbuing. My first = reaction was to say: Hey! Ther's plenty of case where it doesn't works ! = But ... what if he is right ? Obviously, I'm far from being as visionary = as the creator of the Mac Intosh was ! =20 Regards, =20 Christophe ________________________________ De: software-keyholes-bounces-xIg/pKzrS18HpDbxM/[email protected] de la part de Scott = Meyers Date: ven. 26/08/2005 04:01 =C0: Software Keyholes; Software Keyholes Objet : Re: [SK] A New Keyhole Type! At 01:43 PM 8/25/2005, Hendrik Schober wrote: > to be modal.) OTOH, I can think of a reason to not > allow the opposite: Suppose you open the "Print" > dialog, and enter that you want to print page 2-7, > then open the "Open" dialog and open a document > with only one page. The same thing that would happen if you opened a one-page document, = clicked Print, then specified pages 2-7. I don't see the problem. But that's not the issue. The issue is that modal dialogs are a keyhole and, as such, we should look for alternatives, taking into account the = pros and cons of each design when coming to a decision. Rather than talk = about Print dialogs and what could or could not be (thus risking being blinded = by what we are used to), I think a better example is the bookmark = management window, which is modal under IE6 and modeless under Firefox. Now that = we know that both are possible, we are in a better position to reason about their relative merits. Scott _______________________________________________ software-keyholes mailing list software-keyholes-xIg/pKzrS18HpDbxM/[email protected] http://lists.artima.com/mailman/listinfo/software-keyholes