RE : [SK] A New Keyhole Type!

"Christophe Addinquy" <Christophe.Addinquy-7+TMkytGX/[email protected]> Sun, 28 Aug 2005 10:35:12 +0200
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This stuff reminds me one key idea of the Jeff Raskin exposed in "The =
Human Interface": everything ona computer should be modless ! By =
modless, Raskin think no only about dialog boxes, but also abut working =
context ! It means the computer behavior or the way we use keyboard, =
mouse, etc.. should not depend on the fact we are using an "edit mode" =
or not, or even one application or another ! Raskin even follow his =
though to the end of the road: power "on" or "off" is even considered as =
a mode !
I would say: when we think about it, it's really disturbuing. My first =
reaction was to say: Hey! Ther's plenty of case where it doesn't works ! =
But ... what if he is right ? Obviously, I'm far from being as visionary =
as the creator of the Mac Intosh was !
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Regards,
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Christophe

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De: software-keyholes-bounces-xIg/pKzrS18HpDbxM/[email protected] de la part de Scott =
Meyers
Date: ven. 26/08/2005 04:01
=C0: Software Keyholes; Software Keyholes
Objet : Re: [SK] A New Keyhole Type!



At 01:43 PM 8/25/2005, Hendrik Schober wrote:
>  to be modal.) OTOH, I can think of a reason to not
>  allow the opposite: Suppose you open the "Print"
>  dialog, and enter that you want to print page 2-7,
>  then open the "Open" dialog and open a document
>  with only one page.

The same thing that would happen if you opened a one-page document, =
clicked
Print, then specified pages 2-7.  I don't see the problem.

But that's not the issue.  The issue is that modal dialogs are a keyhole
and, as such, we should look for alternatives, taking into account the =
pros
and cons of each design when coming to a decision.  Rather than talk =
about
Print dialogs and what could or could not be (thus risking being blinded =
by
what we are used to), I think a better example is the bookmark =
management
window, which is modal under IE6 and modeless under Firefox.  Now that =
we
know that both are possible, we are in a better position to reason about
their relative merits.

Scott

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