Re: Learning a new language every year can be dangerous.

"DanHinojosa" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.programming.language-of-the-year
Message-ID <[email protected]>
--- In [email protected], "philip reed" <philipreedtech@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for posting these.   I was too lazy to hunt them down for myself.
> 
> This context helps.   I still think the other guy is overreacting,
to wit:
> 
> > You are *clearly* trying to be a smart-ass by using complicated
> > terminology that only few people are acquainted with, *clearly on
> > purpose*.
> 
> I don't think it's clear at all, but the guy's first point about the
> netiquette of asking a question in your subject line is spot-on.    If
> nothing else, people just tune out the subject line when they read
> emails.   If you must, reproduce the question from the subject line
> verbatim in the text.

 I had no problem with that. Coincidentally I saw an earlier post from
the same guy who did the same thing.  A good chuckle if anything.

> 
> IMO the whole brouhaha could have been averted if Dan had made his
> second post on there, #5 in the thread, "Well, the seminal articles
> are by Martin Fowler," his first post instead.   Ask the question,
> include a sentence or two explaining what it is or why you're ignorant
> of its applicability to C++, and be done with it.
> 
> It only takes 30 seconds more to make post #5 rather than post #1.
> Agonizing over the response took much more time.  It's time well-spent
> in the sense that it's beneficial for all of us to discuss tactics for
> more effective communication, but it's not necessarily time well-spent
> for Dan if he's trying to get a straight answer.

Hindsight is 20/20.  You know now that DI is not used in C++ culture,
or maybe you did already.  But from my perspective I didn't at that
time of posting.  So I just asked the question, and it wasn't rude or
even terse.  I thought since DI is a well-known pattern and the C++
programmers in the group were seasoned and very skilled they would be
more than happy to answer the question.  Most were, one wasn't. 

Oh well. such is life.




> 
> Regards,
> 
> Philip
> 
> On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Wayne <wayne@...> wrote:
> >
> 
> >  I found this thread amusing so I looked up your questions on Google.
> 
> 
> 
> >  ...The second is found here:
> >
> > 
http://objectmix.com/c/375425-c-culture-use-dependency-injection-inversion-ofcontrol.html
> >
> >  Yes, one guy did call you a smart-ass but then your question was
kind of
> >  terse. You really need to look at it from the other persons view.
Here
> >  you are asking him to take time out of his busy life to help you. You
> >  ask a question that has so little information it probably going
to take
> >  him 15-20 minutes on Google just to figure out what you're talking
> >  about. Then it going to take more time for him to write a response. I
> >  probably wouldn't have called you a smart-ass but I would not have
> >  answered your question either. I find it hard to put more effort into
> >  answering a question than was put into asking it.
> >
> >  So here's my question. Were you really serious in asking these
questions
> >  or just trolling?
> 
> -- 
> Philip Reed, Web developer
> 
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