Re: taking deployment/operations considerations into account
Al Chou <hotfusionman-/[email protected]>
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Vic, Your situation sounds nearly pathological, but in the interest of furthering the intent of my thread: do you think there's something that the design of your software product could have incorporated that would make dealing with the deployment environment you find yourself in easier? Al ----- Original Message ---- > From: Vic Williams <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 4:41:15 PM > Subject: Re: [pragprog] taking deployment/operations considerations into account > > Hi, > > We have something akin to that. We develop courseware and courses and > training for > language schools in China, so we periodically send hardcopy and > electronic copies of > about 500 files to 12 other sites in China. The Chinese control the shipping > and the servers. We have one server officially and one that they don't > tell us about > that sits on the floor about 4 meters from my desk. Officially only > three of us have > access to our files. > > The IT manager edits our files to make them "look beautiful." (He's not > one of the 'three'.) > Especially the first screen or page in a file. This sometimes includes > removing things on the first screen/page. > > Things like source control just disappear. Or, as another example, I run > two browsers > to bypass the Great Firewall. Their software locks one to cut web > access, so I bypass > with a second browser and an anonymiser. And dynamically switch, to see > dramatic > improvements in access and speed. So one browser will be uninstalled > overnight. > (They say firefox "causes problems" so they always delete Internet > Explorer. Go figure.) > > There has been a bit of negative feedback to such antics so now the > Chinese shipping > manager deals directly with us. He recently came into the office and > told our manager that > her password had just been changed, then told us all what the new > password is. Of > course we can't change our passwords. We provided a bit more negative > feedback > so we now have 3 IT support staff and the same 'secure' > open-to-nutty-managers > server, and the overall manager will take us out to KTV this week. > > So the solution is to add more support staff and a whiff of > entertainment (that > none of the three of us are interested in attending). > > Good sound practice? > > Al Chou wrote: > > ... (there are plenty of organizations among our customers where the > machine/OS-level administrator is not allowed to see the application data, and > the application administrator is not > > allowed administrative access to the OS). > > > > I'm wondering how much such issues are taken into account by the individuals > on this mailing list? > > > bye, > vic > > -- > “The worse the society, the more law there will be. In Hell, > there will be nothing but law, and due process will be meticulously > observed.” -- Grant Gilmore (The Ages of American Law 1977, p. 111) > Vic Williams 13066824980 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ