Re: What are the most important issues during offshore software development

Hi Jens,

Oh, sure, but first you just have to send me proof that I'm wrong.
Proof that is not based on bias, "personal experience" (bias) or
"empyrical evidence" (bias).

Thanks and good luck,
Luiz

On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 2:17 PM, jens bendig <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Luiz,
>
> please send the Guitar to this address:
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> Thanks,
> Jens
>
> Am 03.07.2008 um 18:38 schrieb Luiz Esmiralha:
>
> The problem is not outsourcing to Asia. The problem is outsourcing. I
> bet my Gibson Les Paul that results would be much poorer if, for
> instance, brazilian companies offshored systems development to
> american or german companies. After all, how many americans or germans
> out there can communicate well in Portuguese?
>
> Software professionals from India, Brazil, China and Eastern Europe
> are just as knowledgeable as those from North America and Western
> Europe, so it is offshoring that hurts product quality.
>
> Best regards,
> Luiz Esmiralha
>
> On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 1:01 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 1:21 AM, shi lin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > Yeah, there are some many successful offshore stories.
>>>
>>> And Enron was a "success story" once -- before it wasn't. :-)
>>>
>> Yup. Been there, done that, seen the disasters.
>>
>>> > That is why US or European companies outsourced their projects
>>>
>>> Companies outsource because it's cheaper. In the cases I'm personally
>>> familiar with, the project owners simply didn't care that the end
>>> product
>>> was unmaintainable, barely-usable crap.
>>>
>> Mostly. More often the project owners were forced into it be boardrooms
>> who
>> didn't want to know.
>> Offshoring was "kewl" and made you look "modern" because "everybody does
>> it
>> so it must be good".
>>
>>> Their only goal was to show their boss the project was done, check
>>> it off, look good for the next performance/salary review.
>>>
>> The goal was usually to do it on the cheap, never mind the consequences as
>> I'll no longer be managing the project after it enters maintenance.
>>
>>> Forgive me if I'm skeptical of all the white-paper "success stories"...
>>>
>> Nothing to forgive.
>> While there are successes (I've seen them) those do NOT involve offshoring
>> to Asia and only involve offshoring the mechanical work of turning highly
>> detailed technical designs into code modules.
>>
>>
>
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