Load Balancing - IT Blueprints
Russel Pham <[email protected]> Wed, 27 Jan 2010 14:10:33 -0800
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--===============0691451147== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e649820cde9ebf047e2cabb9 --0016e649820cde9ebf047e2cabb9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Ken, Thanks for the input. There's a place there for visitors to comment, there you can get more specific or engage experts such as F5. We used Google rating/comment module so it can be easily translated into different languages. Our short term plan is to add an additional field for related IT blueprints. The long term plan ideally is to have a drill down type screen. If anyone knows how to do this on a web page please share your insight. The next few days we'll be integrating a whiteboard for drawing diagrams. This is where we can come together and brainstorm. I hope you can join us. Russel Pham On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 12:40 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Send lb-l mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://vegan.net/mailman/listinfo/lb-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of lb-l digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: L7 packet inspection (Kenneth Salchow) > 2. Re: Load Balancing IT Blueprints (Kenneth Salchow) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 12:34:37 -0800 > From: Kenneth Salchow <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [load balancing] L7 packet inspection > To: Load Balancing Mailing List <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > < > 4B18A8F75A6384449755BC7784073E9360EEA4607A@exch11.olympus.f5net.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Sorry for delayed response?was having too much fun in Europe. J > > > > Par usual, Ed, Tony and (increasingly) Surya have covered a lot of the > bases > here?what they didn?t specifically call out, but intimated, is that you > really didn?t specify *what* you want to do at L7. That?s a HUGE > determination in what you look for and who you but it from. The products, > prices and capabilities range quite widely?heck, even here at F5 we have > several different capabilities from the basic L7 capability in the ADC, to > a > protocol enforcement product to a full-fledged application firewall. Which > solution makes the most sense totally depends on what you want to do. > > > > Instead of just throwing out various products and vendors generically?can > you narrow down your goals a little? > > > > Thanks, > > > > > KJ (Ken) Salchow, Jr. | Manager, Technical Marketing > > > D 651.423.1133 > > M 612.868.1258 > > P 206.272.5555 > > F 206.272.5555 > > <http://www.f5.com/> www.f5.com > > > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > S. > Stef?n Sigur?sson > Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 5:28 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [load balancing] L7 packet inspection > > > > Hi, my company wants to start doing packet L7 inspection on all traffic > going through the load balancer. > > > > Now my concern (cost aside) is how will I get the best performance > possible, > ever ms counts. > > > > We are currently using an Ace module to do our SLB and it has the option > of > L7 inspect but will that perform any better than putting a good L7 firewall > in front of the ACE. > > > > We are still just in the concept stage of this plan so any advice or good > idea would be greatly appreciated.. > > > > S. Stefan > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://vegan.net/pipermail/lb-l/attachments/20100127/7fd029f1/attachment-0001.html > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: smime.p7s > Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature > Size: 3076 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://vegan.net/pipermail/lb-l/attachments/20100127/7fd029f1/attachment-0001.bin > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 12:40:15 -0800 > From: Kenneth Salchow <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [load balancing] Load Balancing IT Blueprints > To: Load Balancing Mailing List <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > < > 4B18A8F75A6384449755BC7784073E9360EEA46093@exch11.olympus.f5net.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Russel, > > > > Nice. Although, I'm probably just a little bit biased. > > > > Have you ever thought of putting some 'text' around these? I've had a > problem for many years trying to come up with basic diagrams of > load-balancing because a picture just doesn't capture the full flavor of > things like return-routing and health checks and stuff. > > > > > KJ (Ken) Salchow, Jr. | Manager, Technical Marketing > > > D 651.423.1133 > > M 612.868.1258 > > P 206.272.5555 > > F 206.272.5555 > > <http://www.f5.com/> www.f5.com > > > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Russel Pham > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 2:05 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [load balancing] Load Balancing IT Blueprints > > > > Hi everyone, > I've landed on Vegan.net many times in the past to gather information about > load balancing. It's now time for me to return the favor. I've started a > few network diagrams or IT blueprints of load balancing for those who are > visual to learn, and understand. The URL is > http://xenmaster.com/LoadBalance.aspx. I intend to put more content as we > go along. Please feel free to comment, make suggestions or contribute > your > own diagram to XenMaster.com for others to see. Postback to Vegan.net is > welcome. We play nice. > > Sincerely, > Russel > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://vegan.net/pipermail/lb-l/attachments/20100127/45ad70ef/attachment.html > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: smime.p7s > Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature > Size: 3076 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://vegan.net/pipermail/lb-l/attachments/20100127/45ad70ef/attachment.bin > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > lb-l mailing list > [email protected] > http://vegan.net/mailman/listinfo/lb-l > > > End of lb-l Digest, Vol 36, Issue 6 > *********************************** > --0016e649820cde9ebf047e2cabb9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ken,<br>Thanks for the input. There's a place there for visitors to = comment, there you can get more specific or engage experts such as F5.=A0 W= e used Google rating/comment module so it can be easily translated into dif= ferent languages.=A0 Our short term plan is to add an additional field for = related IT blueprints.=A0 The long term plan ideally is to have a drill dow= n type screen.=A0 If anyone knows how to do this on a web page please share= your insight.<br> <br>The next few days we'll be integrating a whiteboard for drawing dia= grams.=A0 This is where we can come together and brainstorm.=A0 I hope you = can join us.<br><br>Russel Pham<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On We= d, Jan 27, 2010 at 12:40 PM, <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:lb-l-= [email protected]">[email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, = 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Send lb-l mailing= list submissions to<br> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br> <br> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<a href=3D"http://vegan.net/mailman/listinfo/lb-l" target= =3D"_blank">http://vegan.net/mailman/listinfo/lb-l</a><br> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">lb-l-request@vega= n.net</a><br> <br> You can reach the person managing the list at<br> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]= t</a><br> <br> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br> than "Re: Contents of lb-l digest..."<br> <br> <br> Today's Topics:<br> <br> =A0 1. Re: L7 packet inspection (Kenneth Salchow)<br> =A0 2. Re: Load Balancing IT Blueprints (Kenneth Salchow)<br> <br> <br> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br> <br> Message: 1<br> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 12:34:37 -0800<br> From: Kenneth Salchow <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">k.salchow@f5.= com</a>><br> Subject: Re: [load balancing] L7 packet inspection<br> To: Load Balancing Mailing List <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">lb-l@= vegan.net</a>><br> Message-ID:<br> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<<a href=3D"mailto:4B18A8F75A6384449755BC7784073E9360EEA= [email protected]">4B18A8F75A6384449755BC7784073E9360EEA4607A@= exch11.olympus.f5net.com</a>><br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"<br> <br> Sorry for delayed response?was having too much fun in Europe. =A0J<br> <br> <br> <br> Par usual, Ed, Tony and (increasingly) Surya have covered a lot of the base= s<br> here?what they didn?t specifically call out, but intimated, is that you<br> really didn?t specify *what* you want to do at L7. =A0That?s a HUGE<br> determination in what you look for and who you but it from. =A0The products= ,<br> prices and capabilities range quite widely?heck, even here at F5 we have<br= > several different capabilities from the basic L7 capability in the ADC, to = a<br> protocol enforcement product to a full-fledged application firewall. =A0Whi= ch<br> solution makes the most sense totally depends on what you want to do.<br> <br> <br> <br> Instead of just throwing out various products and vendors generically?can<b= r> you narrow down your goals a little?<br> <br> <br> <br> Thanks,<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> KJ (Ken) Salchow, Jr. | Manager, Technical Marketing<br> <br> <br> D 651.423.1133<br> <br> M 612.868.1258<br> <br> P 206.272.5555<br> <br> F 206.272.5555<br> <br> =A0<<a href=3D"http://www.f5.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.f5.com/<= /a>> <a href=3D"http://www.f5.com" target=3D"_blank">www.f5.com</a><br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> From: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> = [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a= >] On Behalf Of S.<br> Stef?n Sigur?sson<br> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 5:28 AM<br> To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br> Subject: [load balancing] L7 packet inspection<br> <br> <br> <br> Hi, my company wants to start doing packet L7 inspection on all traffic<br> going through the load balancer.<br> <br> <br> <br> Now my concern (cost aside) is how will I get the best performance possible= ,<br> ever ms counts.<br> <br> <br> <br> We are currently =A0using an Ace module to do our SLB and it has the option= of<br> L7 inspect but will that perform any better than putting a good L7 firewall= <br> in front of the ACE.<br> <br> <br> <br> We are still just in the concept stage of this plan so any advice or good<b= r> idea would be greatly appreciated..<br> <br> <br> <br> S. Stefan<br> <br> -------------- next part --------------<br> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br> URL: <<a href=3D"http://vegan.net/pipermail/lb-l/attachments/20100127/7f= d029f1/attachment-0001.html" target=3D"_blank">http://vegan.net/pipermail/l= b-l/attachments/20100127/7fd029f1/attachment-0001.html</a>><br> -------------- next part --------------<br> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...<br> Name: smime.p7s<br> Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature<br> Size: 3076 bytes<br> Desc: not available<br> URL: <<a href=3D"http://vegan.net/pipermail/lb-l/attachments/20100127/7f= d029f1/attachment-0001.bin" target=3D"_blank">http://vegan.net/pipermail/lb= -l/attachments/20100127/7fd029f1/attachment-0001.bin</a>><br> <br> ------------------------------<br> <br> Message: 2<br> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 12:40:15 -0800<br> From: Kenneth Salchow <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">k.salchow@f5.= com</a>><br> Subject: Re: [load balancing] Load Balancing IT Blueprints<br> To: Load Balancing Mailing List <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">lb-l@= vegan.net</a>><br> Message-ID:<br> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<<a href=3D"mailto:4B18A8F75A6384449755BC7784073E9360EEA= [email protected]">4B18A8F75A6384449755BC7784073E9360EEA46093@= exch11.olympus.f5net.com</a>><br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"<br> <br> Russel,<br> <br> <br> <br> Nice. =A0Although, I'm probably just a little bit biased.<br> <br> <br> <br> Have you ever thought of putting some 'text' around these? =A0I'= ;ve had a<br> problem for many years trying to come up with basic diagrams of<br> load-balancing because a picture just doesn't capture the full flavor o= f<br> things like return-routing and health checks and stuff.<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> KJ (Ken) Salchow, Jr. | Manager, Technical Marketing<br> <br> <br> D 651.423.1133<br> <br> M 612.868.1258<br> <br> P 206.272.5555<br> <br> F 206.272.5555<br> <br> =A0<<a href=3D"http://www.f5.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.f5.com/<= /a>> <a href=3D"http://www.f5.com" target=3D"_blank">www.f5.com</a><br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> From: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> = [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a= >] On Behalf Of<br> Russel Pham<br> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 2:05 AM<br> To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br> Subject: [load balancing] Load Balancing IT Blueprints<br> <br> <br> <br> Hi everyone,<br> I've landed on Vegan.net many times in the past to gather information a= bout<br> load balancing. =A0It's now time for me to return the favor. =A0I'v= e started a<br> few network diagrams or IT blueprints of load balancing for those who are<b= r> visual to learn, and understand. =A0The URL is<br> <a href=3D"http://xenmaster.com/LoadBalance.aspx" target=3D"_blank">http://= xenmaster.com/LoadBalance.aspx</a>. =A0I intend to put more content as we<b= r> go along. =A0 Please feel free to comment, make suggestions or contribute y= our<br> own diagram to XenMaster.com for others to see. =A0Postback to Vegan.net is= <br> welcome. =A0We play nice.<br> <br> Sincerely,<br> Russel<br> <br> -------------- next part --------------<br> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br> URL: <<a href=3D"http://vegan.net/pipermail/lb-l/attachments/20100127/45= ad70ef/attachment.html" target=3D"_blank">http://vegan.net/pipermail/lb-l/a= ttachments/20100127/45ad70ef/attachment.html</a>><br> -------------- next part --------------<br> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...<br> Name: smime.p7s<br> Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature<br> Size: 3076 bytes<br> Desc: not available<br> URL: <<a href=3D"http://vegan.net/pipermail/lb-l/attachments/20100127/45= ad70ef/attachment.bin" target=3D"_blank">http://vegan.net/pipermail/lb-l/at= tachments/20100127/45ad70ef/attachment.bin</a>><br> <br> ------------------------------<br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> lb-l mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br> <a href=3D"http://vegan.net/mailman/listinfo/lb-l" target=3D"_blank">http:/= /vegan.net/mailman/listinfo/lb-l</a><br> <br> <br> End of lb-l Digest, Vol 36, Issue 6<br> ***********************************<br> </blockquote></div><br> --0016e649820cde9ebf047e2cabb9-- --===============0691451147== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ lb-l mailing list [email protected] http://vegan.net/mailman/listinfo/lb-l Searchable Archive: http://vegan.net/lb/archive http://lbdigest.com Load Balancing Digest http://lbwiki.com Load Balancing Wiki --===============0691451147==--