RE: [AM] Do tools sell?

Jonathan Kern <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.programming.modeling.agile
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Yes... this is part of the sticky trap.

You see, I considered my comments to be in light of a long-lived
application. Anyone can create an application the first time. It is easy to
create wall-chart size, complex-looking data models or object models on
D-size plotters. It is much more difficult to create a design that balances
time-to-market with reduced total cost of ownership over the life of the
application.

These lousy designs (that work the first time) can kill a company in the
long run due to their inherent instability and rigidity.

Part of the problem is that the business owner (and often the developers)
can't tell the difference between a quality design and a shoddy design.

Agile models often don't take that much longer to build, yet keep the
business from being held hostage by the "Big Ball of Mud" inefficiencies.


-- jon



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hubert Matthews [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 2:50 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [AM] Do tools sell?
>
>
> Jonathan Kern wrote:
>
> > We don't need heroes on development teams, we need
> professionals who care about business
> > results.
>
> May I ask how this statement relates to your other statements
> about separation of concerns,
> 5,000 line JSP pages etc?  If the people paying for the system
> can't tell the difference
> between a well-factored and elegant design and a Big Ball of Mud,
> is one really better than
> the other as far as they're concerned?  Aren't we too focussed on
> "invisible" technical issues
> and not on business results?  How do we know that we've got the
> business results we wanted and
> how do we know that the software system provided those results?
> Perception is far more
> important than techies realise.
>
> --
> Hubert Matthews         http://www.oxyware.com/
> Software Consultant     [email protected]
>
> For more information about AM, visit the Agile Modeling Home Page
> at www.agilemodeling.com
>
>
>

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