Tools was Re: [AM] A small success and a large irony

Scott Ambler <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.programming.modeling.agile
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Some thoughts on the tool issue: 
http://www.agilemodeling.com/essays/simpleTools.htm

- Scott

At 10:20 AM 2/12/2004 +0300, you wrote:
>To use or not to use tools - is the very easy questions, as soon as using
>tools does not become one's primary objective. It's like to walk or drive or
>take a bus - a question with a lot of contributing factors, but really easy
>to answer in every particular case.
>
>Alex Jouravlev,
>Business Abstraction, Sydney
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <[email protected]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 2:06 AM
>Subject: Re: [AM] A small success and a large irony
>
>
> > You shouldn't get hung up on not using tools!  We often use Visio or a
> > simple sequence-chart tool, with a projector or NetMeeting, for
> > collaborative modeling.
> >
> > Hand-drawn diagrams create inertia - once you've got a complex diagram,
> > the notion of redrawing it to insert a change becomes unappealing.
> >
> > More complicated tools also have their charms - if you've got bunch of
> > diagrams showing different views of the same components and their
> > interactions, the ability to change a name in one place and have the
> > change propagate through the other diagrams is very attractive, as is
> > the ability to use an interface in an interaction diagram and have the
> > tool notice that it isn't a defined method of the component and let you
> > add it automatically.  Good tools can increase your low-level agility.
> >
> > You don't have to over-model just because you're using capable tools.
> >
> > scott
> >
> > Thanks, Scott.  Excellent points. The first really good pro-tools posting
>I've seen. I was getting the feeling that the list was somewhat anti-tool
>with the white board and disposable models. In this case however it's
>somewhat amusing. The company culture is one that will not allow non-IS
>personnel to have tools like that - not even Visio.  That was why I pushed
>into a white board approach.
> > But it does bring up one aspect:  how do you do successful collaboration
>all gathered around a single monitor?  Say you have 15 people of different
>stripes on the team.  Is there a collaboration/design tool that can
>communicate on the many levels of those needing to share information?
>(Business analysts, programmers, managers, users, etc.)  And do so without
>having to crowd around a couple of monitors in a conference room?
> > -steve
> >
> > For more information about AM, visit the Agile Modeling Home Page at
>www.agilemodeling.com
> >
> >
>
>For more information about AM, visit the Agile Modeling Home Page at 
>www.agilemodeling.com

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Scott W. Ambler
Senior Consultant, Ronin International, Inc.
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