Re: [AM] The Spiral Model

Well, the SEI publishes a "People CMM" that specifically evaluates
organizations on how well mature their people processes are, including
things like communications, training, workspace, etc.

For that matter, I suspect the Software CMM authors would say that their
goals are EXACTLY "enabling the people... to know and to do what is
needed for success."  Many of the CMM goals are are directly focused on
things like making sure information about changes gets to the people who
need to know them and on people knowing what they need to know to get
their jobs done.

For that matter, PeopleWare was published about 15 years ago, so
I'm not sure where you think there has been silence.

scott

| From: Charlie Poole<[email protected]>
| 
| Actually, my comments merely assume the existence of the statements on
| process overhead in the post I was responding to. ;-)
| 
| My own assumption is that projects succeed by enabling the people who
| work on them to know and do what is needed for that success. Different
| methodologies might contribute to that characteristic or detract from
| it. In fact, different instances of the same methodology might have
| opposite effects.
| 
| "Valuing people"  is IMO agile shorthand for the above. Although much of
| management literature over the years has addressed the need to do this,
| AFAIK the software development approaches collectively known as agile
| seem to be the first to actually talk about it out loud.
| 
| I agree that this says nothing about weight of process in and of itself.
| However, my personal experience leads me to think that projects run in a
| way that enables folks to know and carry out the tasks needed tend to
| need less overhead than those that rely on telling them what tasks to do
| and how to do them. If that observation is correct, one of the reasons -
| there are of course others - for needing a relatively heavier amount of
| up front requirements and design documentation in certain projects can
| be set aside.
| 
| Charlie Poole
| [email protected]
| 

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