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Michael D Jackson <[email protected]> Thu, 26 Feb 2004 09:22:32 -0500
Newsgroups gmane.comp.programming.modeling.agile
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Spot on Pete..I probably in the same box with you, but I echo your
sentiments.

 

I've taken you're exact approach to explaining "agility" to some of my
less experienced and even long-time veteran counterparts.  It's
definitely harder changing the thinking of some of the veterans.
Although at the end of my pontification they outwardly express
understanding, I think internally they still take a "leap of faith"
until we successfully deliver either because of the role I'm in and
associated authority or because they are desperate enough to try my
crazy ideas.  :-)

 

Mike Jackson

Deloitte Consulting

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Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 8:30 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Work to the risk was Re: Inspections Was: RE: [AM] ANN:
Mashing Deadly My

 

In a message dated 2/26/2004 12:19:56 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:

Of course, my personal belief is that we should *always* use
appropriate methods. 

Since my intoduction to this forum several months ago, one of the things
that struck me regarding the comments of new participants regarding
"agility" in general and agile modeling in particular was an expectation
that there was a well-defined step-by-step "formula" that, properly
applied, would lead to universal success in developing software. This
expectation has been the cause of much debate, and in several cases,
somewhat heated exchanges, regarding just what constitutes agilility.
Your comment regarding "appropriate methods", above, seems to strike at
the heart of this issue. For some time now, I have suspected that the
form of agility implied in the principles of the Agile Manifesto, and
described and embraced by the contributors heer, requires either a
fairly extensive body of development experience or a substantial "leap
of faith" in order to understand that agility and appropriate methods
are essentially two side of the same coin. This is not necessarily
intuitively obvious to the uninitiated, particularly those earnestly
searching for a better way to build software, and it may account for
many of the misunderstandings that have arisen on this subject. 

 

I may not be the brightest bulb in the box, so I could be way off base
here, but it seems to me that there seems to be some minimum level of
knowledge or experience required to understand and appreciate the
general concept of agility. I am sure that many of us have been called
upon to describe agility, and it sometimes feels to me like I'm trying
to describe the Golden Rule to the infidels; that is, I uually have to
provide a brief summary of the history of sofware development to put the
concept of agility in an appropriate context before the light bulb
overhead gets turned on. Is my experience unique, or am I just an
inadequate spokeperson for agility? How do the rest of you hep others to
understand agility and its benefits? 

 

Comments, please...

 

Regards,

 

Pete

 

 

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