RE: [AM] Article of Interest in CIO Magazine
[email protected] Mon, 8 Mar 2004 23:30:03 -0600
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If an agile team practices lean thinking, one of the fundamental tools is to examine the value chain for the business process the software plays in. Focusing only on the software development tasks will inevitably lead to sub-optimization. Tom Poppendieck www.poppendieck.com Author of Lean Software Development: An Agile Toolkit -----Original Message----- From: Hubert Matthews [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 4:36 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AM] Article of Interest in CIO Magazine [email protected] wrote: > In a message dated 3/7/2004 8:25:30 PM Pacific Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > There are other major post-deployment costs that are > not so obvious, > > Actually, Steven, I agree, and thank you for bringing them into > the discussion. I omitted them so as not to distract my focus > from the effect of system design on post-deployment costs. Now > that you have brought them up, there could, in fact, be a > direct correlation between the design of a system and the costs > you've mentioned. But where in the agile equation does > consideration for these things fit? It doesn't. Agile methods, like most software development methods, focusses on the expensive pause at the beginning of the project. No consideration of the bulk of the project is taken into account. It is up to the business users to have the vision of where the system is going and what it must do. Most of them don't think like that, so guess what, you end up with failed projects. The C3 project, XP's favourite story, was canned because it wasn't delivering the business value required, as it handled only 1/3 of the functionality and the old legacy system couldn't be turned off. Expecting users to work through the systemic implications of development and operational tradeoffs is unrealistic. After all, that's my job! -- Hubert Matthews http://www.oxyware.com/ Software Consultant [email protected] For more information about AM, visit the Agile Modeling Home Page at www.agilemodeling.com --------------------------- For more information about AM, visit the Agile Modeling Home Page at www.agilemodeling.com --^---------------------------------------------------------------- This email was sent to: [email protected] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bUrKDA.bWnbtk.Z2NtYS1h Or send an email to: [email protected] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^----------------------------------------------------------------