Re: [AM] Problems ever occur in Agile?
[email protected] Mon, 29 Mar 2004 23:03:49 EST
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It's the creativity unleashing, mood enhancing=20 desk toy! http://click.topica.com/= caab4CEbUrKDAbWnbtka/ Crazy Aaron Enterprises =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D In a message dated 3/29/2004 6:38:51 PM Pacific Standard Time,=20 [email protected] writes: I cannot think of anything that makes it harder for my students to understa= nd=20 agility than the subconscious brainwashing they have been given with respec= t=20 to phases throughout their education. I think the same may be true of IT= =20 managers.=20=20 Steven: Right on!. When I began my career as a softare developer in the U.S. Air Force, I had= =20 visions of getting in "on the gound floor" of a "dynamic and exciting new= =20 field". I should have read the fine print. Experience has taught me that th= e=20 majority of software developers and their managers comprise one of the most= =20 conservative and "tight-butted" groups I've ever seen or had to work with. = I have on=20 many occasions described those of my clients who elected to give agile a tr= y as=20 "Desperate or Daring", and that about sums it up. Of course, so far, they= =20 could also be described as "Successful", at least as far as the projects in= which=20 I was involved as a developer are concerned. I attribute their aversion to= =20 just about anything other than the phased waterfall approach to their train= ing,=20 their aversion to try anything new, and pressure from the bean counters to= =20 comply with the standard project costing models.=20 Regards, Pete =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D **** Bounces like rubber! 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It's the creativity unleashing, mood enhancing=20 desk toy! http://click.topica.com/= caab5n2bUrKDAbWnbtkf/ Crazy Aaron Enterprises =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D For more information about AM, visit the Agile Modeling Home Page at www.ag= ilemodeling.com --^---------------------------------------------------------------- This email was sent to: = [email protected] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bUrKDA.= bWnbtk.= Z2NtYS1h Or send an email to: [email protected] For Topica's complete suite of email marketing solutions visit: http://www.topica.com/?p=3DTEXFOOTER --^---------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------1080619429 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><HEAD> <META charset=3DUS-ASCII http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; ch= arset=3DUS-ASCII"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff= ff">= <PRE>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D **** Bounces like rubber! Shatters like ceramic! **** Discover Crazy Aaron's Thinking Putty in grown up=20 handfuls. It's the creativity unleashing, mood enhancing=20 desk toy! <A HREF=3D"http://click.topica.com/= caab4CEbUrKDAbWnbtkb/">http://click.topica.com/= caab4CEbUrKDAbWnbtkb/</A> Crazy Aaron Enterprises =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D </PRE> <DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 3/29/2004 6:38:51 PM Pacific Standard Time, Steven.= [email protected] writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue= 2px solid"><FONT face=3DArial>I cannot think of anything that makes it har= der for my students to understand agility than the subconscious brainwashin= g they have been given with respect to phases throughout their education.&n= bsp; I think the same may be true of IT managers. </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE= ></DIV> <DIV>Steven:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Right on!.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>When I began my career as a softare developer in the U.S. Air Force, I= had visions of getting in "on the gound floor" of a "dynamic and exci= ting new field". I should have read the fine print. Experience has taught m= e that the majority of software developers and their managers comprise= one of the most conservative and "tight-butted" groups I've ever seen= or had to work with. I have on many occasions described those of my c= lients who elected to give agile a try as "Desperate or Daring", and that a= bout sums it up. Of course, so far, they could also be described as "Succes= sful", at least as far as the projects in which I was involved as a develop= er are concerned. I attribute their aversion to just about anything ot= her than the phased waterfall approach to their training, their aversi= on to try anything new, and pressure from the bean counters to comply with = the standard project costing models. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Regards,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Pete</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>= <PRE>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D **** Bounces like rubber! Shatters like ceramic! **** Discover Crazy Aaron's Thinking Putty in grown up=20 handfuls. It's the creativity unleashing, mood enhancing=20 desk toy! <A HREF=3D"http://click.topica.com/= caab5n2bUrKDAbWnbtkg/">http://click.topica.com/= caab5n2bUrKDAbWnbtkg/</A> Crazy Aaron Enterprises =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D </PRE> <PRE>For more information about AM, visit the Agile Modeli= ng Home Page at www.agilemodeling.com</PRE> <PRE>--^^--------------------------------------------------------------- This email was sent to: = [email protected] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: <A HREF=3D"http://topica.com/u/?bUrKDA.= bWnbtk.= Z2NtYS1h">http://topica.com/u/?bUrKDA.= bWnbtk.= Z2NtYS1h</A> Or send an email to: [email protected] For Topica's complete suite of email marketing solutions visit: <A HREF=3D"http://www.topica.com/?p=3DTEXFOOTER">http://www.topica.com/?p= =3DTEXFOOTER</A> --^^---------------------------------------------------------------</PRE> </BODY></HTML> -------------------------------1080619429--