Re: PO at retro
"Barbara Kryvko [email protected] [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]" <[email protected]> Thu, 23 Feb 2017 21:52:12 -0600
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What does the team want? I've had teams that want the PO there, teams that don't, and teams that invite them from time to time. I even had one team that had two retrospectives a month, and invited the PO to one of them -- and had the other by themselves. The question ultimately has to be: who needs to be there to have valuable conversations that result in robust action items? Barbara On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 9:36 PM, srinivas chillara [email protected] [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT] <[email protected]> wrote: > > [Attachment(s) <#m_-460488059543932432_TopText> from srinivas chillara > included below] > > I tend to agree with you Ms Richardson. > And Mr Dinwiddie has a very valid point. How about having an agreement > that the team can invite the PO for retro (if it wants) and SM keeps an eye > on the side-effects of such decisions? Or PO stays for sometime (20 min) > and then leaves--- this worked for teams I coached. > > cheers > Srinivas > http://ceezone.wordress.com > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* "'Jean Richardson' [email protected] [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]" < > [email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Friday, 24 February 2017 4:43 AM > *Subject:* [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT] PO at retro > > > I’m having the “should the Product Owner be at the retrospective” > conversation again. While, years ago, the Product Owner was optional in > this meeting, a fair amount of learning has happened since then and a range > of resources has come out advocating that the PO be present—not optional. > The current edition of the Scrum Guide doesn’t help much here by referring > only to the “Scrum Team” in the section on the retro, but, then again, > maybe that’s intentional, and the Ken and Jeff now believe, based on > feedback and experiments, that the PO should be present at the retro as a > matter of course. > > In a situation where the relationship is not good between the PO and the > Development Team of the PO and the SM, I’m wondering about the quality of a > retro where the PO is not optional, but a required attendee. The guidance > I typically give is that the purpose of the review is to inspect the > increment and the purpose of the retro is for the team to inspect their > work processes. The most intimates changes are often within the team, and > those conversations require privacy and confidentiality to those present > unless those present determine otherwise. Therefore, I still am reasoning > that the PO is optional and included with the agreement of the Development > Team. > > Thoughts? References? > > --- Jean > > > *[image: gate.site.jpg]* > > *Jean Richardson* > Azure Gate Consulting > *~ **Repatterning the Human Experience of Work* > > *AzureGate.net* > (503) 788-8998 > [email protected] > > > > > > >