Re: Modern Waterfall

"srinivas chillara [email protected] [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]" <[email protected]> Fri, 1 Sep 2017 03:21:31 +0000 (UTC)
Newsgroups gmane.comp.programming.scrum.general
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Brilliant, shall we try women, then? 
cheers
Srinivas
PS: Thankfully I'm not at Google!

      From: "Michael Wollin [email protected] [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]" <[email protected]>
 To: [email protected] 
 Sent: Thursday, 31 August 2017 9:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT] Modern Waterfall
   
    
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”

― Upton Sinclair

On Aug 31, 2017, at 11:36 AM, Eric Gunnerson [email protected] [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT] <[email protected]> wrote:

SAFe is very appealing to management because it fits into their view of how the world should work (hierarchical, command and control) and it allows them to claim that they are now “agile” (I mean, it says *AGILE* right there in the name) without having to change what they do.  That’s a win-win.  A lot of things that used to confuse me became much clearer when I realized that managers – and I’m painting with an overly broad brush here – are primarily motivated by the success of their management careers, not by the success of the company. I used to think that management was out of touch and did not understand the issues with the current ways of doing things. Finally – I’m a slow learner – I realized that the reason things were the way they were is that for management, the issues that I was seeing weren’t bugs, they were features.      From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 8:16 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT] Modern Waterfall    >Yeah well... when I first heard the term, I actually said, "like SAFe?" Nobody laughed. I thought I was funny, but you gotta know your audience.     well done! for saying it. Everyone wants to be SAFely agile ; and apparently so many companies are. The number of people who think SAFe is an improvement on 'agile' is mind-numbing. Nobody laughed -->were there a lot of 'senior' executives in the room?I think we are in an over-hyped industry, with most terms having long lost their meanings, so "modern waterfall" is another desperate new term. ( Can there be something called 'over-hyped'? what is the meaning of hyperbole, again?)    > But the term is just a little unsettling, and now I have David Bowie stuck in my head.   Sorry, but I didn't quite catch the reference. I'd no idea poor Bowie bothered about s/w dev.  cheersSrinivasChillara Srinivas is a Scrum Coach, Scrum Trainer, XP, TDD, Test Driven Development, Scrum Training, consultant and trainer, Scrum implementation, Project Management Proficiency, PMP, Pune, Indiawww.ceezone,net
  
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