Re: Re: Scrum Master Job Description
"Alan Dayley [email protected] [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]" <[email protected]> Wed, 20 Dec 2017 18:24:26 +0000
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--001a113ce35e1ec3dd0560c9b2b7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable None of the guides you cite say that the team has to be in the same room. If I wrote something that states or implies such a requirement, I apologize. Distributed teams can be successful. They simply have a communication handicap to overcome. Here is a true story about Agile Manifesto Principle number 6. It is possible for such a story to happen using instant messaging or video tools and so on. I have yet to see it happen like this with such tools. Agile Manifesto Principle #6 The most efficient and effective method of conveying information to and within a development team is face-to-face conversation. A true story At an Agile Coaching engagement, my desk was located among the teams in a open office. My desk faced one of the team's testers, with other team members in the rows near us. One afternoon the tester spoke up to one of the programmers a few desks away. *Tester*: Hey, [Coder], this font here is incorrect. *Coder*: (Not looking up from his screens) No it's not. *Tester*: Yes, it is. Look at it. *Coder*: Sigh. (Gets up and comes to Tester's desk, looks at his screen) No, that's the right font. *Product Owner*: (Gets up from her desk behind me, looks at Tester's screen) Yeah, I don't think that is the right font. What font should it be? *Tech Writer*: (Sitting with her back to the Tester) Just check the wire frame, it says what the font is supposed to be. Here, I'll look it up. (Types and click briefly) It's supposed to be Garamond. *Tester*: Yep, that's what I'm saying, it's the wrong font. *Coder*: OK, give me a minute. (Goes to his desk, clicks and types) OK, check that when the build finishes. *Tester*: Looks good now. Everyone goes back to their desks and resumes whatever. Meaning Face-to-face is not only about a face on a screen, though that is better than no face view at all. It's about being together and efficiently communicating in the now. Collaboration can happen using tools and such. And it's so much easier when the team is actually together. Yes, the business world is mostly convinced that remote, distributed and dispersed is how it must be. There is a significant cost to that model. That cost may be acceptable or even necessary. This Principle #6 reminds us of the cost we pay when we are not together. On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 12:53 PM [email protected] [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT] < [email protected]> wrote: > > > Alan - can you tell us where in the Agile Manifesto, the Agile Principles > or the Scrum Guide, it says that the team have to be in the same room? > > > I think you may find that this 'same room' mentality comes from the earl= y > days of XP but the Agile movement has moved on (forgive the pun!). > > > I have regularly coached and mentored successful Agile teams with global > distribution; daily stand-ups with team, stakeholder and management membe= rs > in Tokyo, Beijing, San Diego and Helsinki. > >=20 > --001a113ce35e1ec3dd0560c9b2b7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <head> <style type=3D"text/css"> <!-- /* start of attachment style */ .ygrp-photo-title{ clear: both; font-size: smaller; height: 15px; overflow: hidden; text-align: center; width: 75px; } div.ygrp-photo{ background-position: center; background-repeat: no-repeat; background-color: white; border: 1px solid black; height: 62px; width: 62px; } div.photo-title=20 a, div.photo-title a:active, div.photo-title a:hover, div.photo-title a:visited { text-decoration: none;=20 } div.attach-table div.attach-row { clear: both; } div.attach-table div.attach-row div { float: left; /* margin: 2px;*/ } p { clear: both; padding: 15px 0 3px 0; overflow: hidden; } div.ygrp-file { width: 30px; valign: middle; } div.attach-table div.attach-row div div a { text-decoration: none; } div.attach-table div.attach-row div div span { font-weight: normal; } div.ygrp-file-title { font-weight: bold; } /* end of attachment style */ --> </style> </head> <html> <head> <style type=3D"text/css"> <!-- #ygrp-mkp { border: 1px solid #d8d8d8; font-family: Arial; margin: 10px 0; padding: 0 10px; } #ygrp-mkp hr { border: 1px solid #d8d8d8; } #ygrp-mkp #hd { color: #628c2a; font-size: 85%; font-weight: 700; line-height: 122%; margin: 10px 0; } #ygrp-mkp #ads { margin-bottom: 10px; } #ygrp-mkp .ad { padding: 0 0; } #ygrp-mkp .ad p { margin: 0; } #ygrp-mkp .ad a { color: #0000ff; text-decoration: none; } --> </style> </head> <body> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <br><br> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> <div><div dir=3D"auto">None of the guides you cite say that the team has to= be in the same room. If I wrote something that states or implies such a re= quirement, I apologize.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"= auto">Distributed teams can be successful. They simply have a communication= handicap to overcome.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"a= uto">Here is a true story about Agile Manifesto Principle number 6. It is p= ossible for such a story to happen using instant messaging or video tools a= nd so on. I have yet to see it happen like this with such tools.=C2=A0</div= ><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><h1 style=3D"font-size:1.6re= m;line-height:2rem;margin-bottom:0.8rem;color:rgb(35,35,35);font-family:Lat= o">Agile Manifesto Principle #6</h1><blockquote style=3D"border-left-width:= 2px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(232,232,232);margin:0px;p= adding:0.25rem 0px 0.25rem 1rem;color:rgb(35,35,35);font-family:Lato;font-s= ize:15px">The most efficient and effective method of conveying information = to and within a development team is face-to-face conversation.</blockquote>= <p style=3D"line-height:1.4rem;margin-bottom:0.8rem;color:rgb(35,35,35);fon= t-family:Lato;font-size:15px"></p><h1 style=3D"font-size:1.6rem;line-height= :2rem;margin-bottom:0.8rem;color:rgb(35,35,35);font-family:Lato">A true sto= ry</h1><p style=3D"line-height:1.4rem;margin-bottom:0.8rem;color:rgb(35,35,= 35);font-family:Lato;font-size:15px">At an Agile Coaching engagement, my de= sk was located among the teams in a open office. My desk faced one of the t= eam's testers, with other team members in the rows near us. One afterno= on the tester spoke up to one of the programmers a few desks away.</p><p st= yle=3D"line-height:1.4rem;margin-bottom:0.8rem;color:rgb(35,35,35);font-fam= ily:Lato;font-size:15px"><b>Tester</b>: Hey, [Coder], this font here is inc= orrect.</p><p style=3D"line-height:1.4rem;margin-bottom:0.8rem;color:rgb(35= ,35,35);font-family:Lato;font-size:15px"><b>Coder</b>: (Not looking up from= his screens) No it's not.</p><p style=3D"line-height:1.4rem;margin-bot= tom:0.8rem;color:rgb(35,35,35);font-family:Lato;font-size:15px"><b>Tester</= b>: Yes, it is. Look at it.</p><p style=3D"line-height:1.4rem;margin-bottom= :0.8rem;color:rgb(35,35,35);font-family:Lato;font-size:15px"><b>Coder</b>: = Sigh. (Gets up and comes to Tester's desk, looks at his screen) No, tha= t's the right font.</p><p style=3D"line-height:1.4rem;margin-bottom:0.8= rem;color:rgb(35,35,35);font-family:Lato;font-size:15px"><b>Product Owner</= b>: (Gets up from her desk behind me, looks at Tester's screen) Yeah, I= don't think that is the right font. What font should it be?</p><p styl= e=3D"line-height:1.4rem;margin-bottom:0.8rem;color:rgb(35,35,35);font-famil= y:Lato;font-size:15px"><b>Tech Writer</b>: (Sitting with her back to the Te= ster) Just check the wire frame, it says what the font is supposed to be. H= ere, I'll look it up. (Types and click briefly) It's supposed to be= Garamond.</p><p style=3D"line-height:1.4rem;margin-bottom:0.8rem;color:rgb= (35,35,35);font-family:Lato;font-size:15px"><b>Tester</b>: Yep, that's = what I'm saying, it's the wrong font.</p><p style=3D"line-height:1.= 4rem;margin-bottom:0.8rem;color:rgb(35,35,35);font-family:Lato;font-size:15= px"><b>Coder</b>: OK, give me a minute. (Goes to his desk, clicks and types= ) OK, check that when the build finishes.</p><p style=3D"line-height:1.4rem= ;margin-bottom:0.8rem;color:rgb(35,35,35);font-family:Lato;font-size:15px">= <b>Tester</b>: Looks good now.</p><p style=3D"line-height:1.4rem;margin-bot= tom:0.8rem;color:rgb(35,35,35);font-family:Lato;font-size:15px">Everyone go= es back to their desks and resumes whatever.</p><h1 style=3D"font-size:1.6r= em;line-height:2rem;margin-bottom:0.8rem;color:rgb(35,35,35);font-family:La= to">Meaning</h1><p style=3D"line-height:1.4rem;margin-bottom:0.8rem;color:r= gb(35,35,35);font-family:Lato;font-size:15px">Face-to-face is not only abou= t a face on a screen, though that is better than no face view at all. It= 9;s about being together and efficiently communicating in the now. Collabor= ation can happen using tools and such. And it's so much easier when the= team is actually together.</p><p style=3D"line-height:1.4rem;margin-bottom= :0.8rem;color:rgb(35,35,35);font-family:Lato;font-size:15px"></p><p style= =3D"line-height:1.4rem;margin-bottom:0.8rem;color:rgb(35,35,35);font-family= :Lato;font-size:15px">Yes, the business world is mostly convinced that remo= te, distributed and dispersed is how it must be. There is a significant cos= t to that model. That cost may be acceptable or even necessary. This Princi= ple #6 reminds us of the cost we pay when we are not together.</p></div><br= ><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 12:53 PM <a href= =3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT] <<a h= ref=3D"mailto:[email protected]">SCRUMDEVELOPMENT@yahoogroup= s.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma= rgin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <u></u> =20 <div style=3D"background-color:#fff"> <span style=3D"display:none">=C2=A0</span> <div id=3D"m_1011444497448260226ygrp-mlmsg"> <div id=3D"m_1011444497448260226ygrp-msg"> <div id=3D"m_1011444497448260226ygrp-text"> =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 <p></p><p>Alan - can you tell us where in the Agile Manifesto, the Ag= ile Principles or the Scrum Guide, it says that the team have to be in the = same room?</p><p><br></p><p>I think you=C2=A0 may find that this 'same = room' mentality=C2=A0comes from the early days of XP but the Agile move= ment has moved on (forgive the pun!).</p><p><br></p><p>I have regularly coa= ched and mentored successful Agile teams with global distribution; daily st= and-ups with team, stakeholder and management members in Tokyo, Beijing, Sa= n Diego and Helsinki.=C2=A0<br class=3D"m_1011444497448260226yui-cursor"></= p><p></p> </div> =20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 <div style=3D"color:#fff;height:0"></div> </div> =20=20 </blockquote></div></div> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <br> <br> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> <div width=3D"1" style=3D"color: white; clear: both;"/>__._,_.___</div> =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20 =20=20=20=20 <div id=3D"fromDMARC" style=3D"clear:both; margin-top: 10px;"> <hr style=3D"height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; backgroun= d-color:#E3E3E3;"> Posted by: Alan Dayley <[email protected]> <hr = style=3D"height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; background-color:#E3E3= E3;"> </div> <!-- Start Recommendations --> <!-- End Recommendations --> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <br><br> <tt> To Post a message, send it to: [email protected]<BR> To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: SCRUMDEVELOPMENT-unsubscribe@eGrou= ps.com</tt> <br><br> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <img src=3D"http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=3D97476590/grpId=3D1569064/grpspI= d=3D1705007709/msgId=3D58777/stime=3D1513794278" width=3D"1" height=3D"1"> = <br> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> =20=20 <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <br> =20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20 =20 <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <div id=3D"ygrp-vital" style=3D"background-color: #f2f2f2; font-fam= ily: Verdana; font-size: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; padding: 10px;"> <span id=3D"vithd" style=3D"font-weight: bold; color: #333; text-tr= ansform: uppercase; "><a href=3D"https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/SCRUMD= EVELOPMENT/info;_ylc=3DX3oDMTJlbm9pMXI5BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1NjkwNjQE= Z3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA3NzA5BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTUxMzc5NDI3OA--" s= tyle=3D"text-decoration: none;">Visit Your Group</a></span> <ul style=3D"list-style-type: none; margin: 0; padding: 0; display: in= line;"> <li style=3D"border-right: 1px solid #000; font-weight: 700; di= splay: inline; padding: 0 5px; margin-left: 0;"> <span class=3D"cat"><a href=3D"https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/SC= RUMDEVELOPMENT/members/all;_ylc=3DX3oDMTJmdGJibm1mBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkA= zE1NjkwNjQEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA3NzA5BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZtYnJzBHN0aW1lAzE1MTM3= OTQyNzg-" style=3D"text-decoration: none;">New Members</a></span> <span class=3D"ct" style=3D"color: #ff7900;">1</span> </li> </ul> </div> <div id=3D"ft" style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 11px; margin-top: 5p= x; padding: 0 2px 0 0; clear: both;"> <a href=3D"https://groups.yahoo.com/neo;_ylc=3DX3oDMTJkYjJubzExBF9TAzk3ND= c2NTkwBGdycElkAzE1NjkwNjQEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA3NzA5BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA2dmcARzd= GltZQMxNTEzNzk0Mjc4" style=3D"float: left;"><img src=3D"http://l.yimg.com/r= u/static/images/yg/img/email/new_logo/logo-groups-137x15.png" height=3D"15"= width=3D"137" alt=3D"Yahoo! 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