Re: What is agile?
"Michael Wollin [email protected] [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]" <[email protected]> Tue, 1 May 2018 00:22:44 -0700
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--Apple-Mail-84B28CDA-764F-4EBF-ACA3-C476FA1C0845 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And now I am thanking you, Alexander, for your very kind words. Great point= about context. This was, indeed, intended for people savvy in business but= naive or misguided about agile.=20 > On Apr 30, 2018, at 11:17 PM, 'Alexander Kriegisch' Kriegisch@Scrum-Maste= r.de [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT] <[email protected]> wrote: >=20 > Dear Michael, >=20 > I think this is a good explanation of what agile is all about. I am not > sure if it is *the* definition, but you did not claim it was. You merely > said it was *your* definition. >=20 > Knowing as much about agile values, principles and practices as many > people in this group, probably every experienced coach or practitioner > could come up with other ways of explaining what agile is and the other > definitions/explanations might be just as valid as yours, accentuating > different nuances. I believe that a good explanation or definition also > depends on the audience because it wants to make a positive impact on > them, considering their previous work experience as well as their > contextual knowledge about agile or lack thereof. >=20 > Imagining I was a newbie taking his first agile training class, I think > I would be well guided in thinking through the meaning of your words and > trying to adopt the principles you explained so well. For me this makes > it a good explanation. Consequently I am thanking you. >=20 > Kind regards > --=20 > Alexander Kriegisch > https://scrum-master.de >=20 > Michael Wollin: >=20 > > My definition and description of agile. Thought some of you might be > > interested or want to comment. > >=20 > > What is agile? > >=20 > > The domain of Agile is in organizational structures, things like > > creating cross-functional teams that get things to production in very > > short cycles. Management gets out of the way and also gets anything > > else out of the way that impedes the people doing the actual work. > > This is akin to the world and mindset of lean manufacturing. New roles > > emerge and old roles and their career paths go away. It=E2=80=99s highl= y > > disruptive to adopt. > >=20 > > The critical element is self-managing teams that are free to > > experiment in a safe space with different ways of working together. > > Through enlightened trial and error their performance improves. > > Similarly, the other key idea is that no one actually knows what the > > product will look like at inception, certainly not in any detail. > > Customers and development teams collaborate to discover what the > > product wants to be along the way. Moreover, the world changes while > > you are doing that and so=E2=80=A6 business agility is the ability to t= urn > > on a dime for a dime (Larman). > >=20 > > Agile is quite simply a set of principles and values that guide you in > > conducting small experiments on two levels, discovering what the > > product is that the customer wants and discovering better ways of > > working together. >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-84B28CDA-764F-4EBF-ACA3-C476FA1C0845 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <head> <style type=3D"text/css"> <!-- /* start of attachment style */ .ygrp-photo-title{ clear: both; font-size: smaller; height: 15px; overflow: hidden; text-align: center; width: 75px; } div.ygrp-photo{ background-position: center; background-repeat: no-repeat; background-color: white; border: 1px solid black; height: 62px; width: 62px; } div.photo-title=20 a, div.photo-title a:active, div.photo-title a:hover, div.photo-title a:visited { text-decoration: none;=20 } div.attach-table div.attach-row { clear: both; } div.attach-table div.attach-row div { float: left; /* margin: 2px;*/ } p { clear: both; padding: 15px 0 3px 0; overflow: hidden; } div.ygrp-file { width: 30px; valign: middle; } div.attach-table div.attach-row div div a { text-decoration: none; } div.attach-table div.attach-row div div span { font-weight: normal; } div.ygrp-file-title { font-weight: bold; } /* end of attachment style */ --> </style> </head> <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset= =3Dutf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <br><br> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> <div></div><div>And now I am thanking you, <span style=3D"background-color:= rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Alexander, for your very kind words. Great point = about context. This was, indeed, intended for people savvy in business but = naive or misguided about agile. </span></div><div><br>On Apr 30, 2018,= at 11:17 PM, 'Alexander Kriegisch' <a href=3D"mailto:Kriegisch@Scrum-Maste= r.de">[email protected]</a> [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT] <<a href=3D"mailt= o:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>>= ; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div> =20 <span style=3D"display:none"> </span> <div id=3D"ygrp-text"> =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 <p>Dear Michael,<br> <br> I think this is a good explanation of what agile is all about. I am not<br> sure if it is *the* definition, but you did not claim it was. You merely<br= > said it was *your* definition.<br> <br> Knowing as much about agile values, principles and practices as many<br> people in this group, probably every experienced coach or practitioner<br> could come up with other ways of explaining what agile is and the other<br> definitions/explanations might be just as valid as yours, accentuating<br> different nuances. I believe that a good explanation or definition also<br> depends on the audience because it wants to make a positive impact on<br> them, considering their previous work experience as well as their<br> contextual knowledge about agile or lack thereof.<br> <br> Imagining I was a newbie taking his first agile training class, I think<br> I would be well guided in thinking through the meaning of your words and<br= > trying to adopt the principles you explained so well. For me this makes<br> it a good explanation. Consequently I am thanking you.<br> <br> Kind regards<br> -- <br> Alexander Kriegisch<br> <a href=3D"https://scrum-master.de">https://scrum-master.de</a><br> <br> Michael Wollin:<br> <br> > My definition and description of agile. Thought some of you might be<b= r> > interested or want to comment.<br> > <br> > What is agile?<br> > <br> > The domain of Agile is in organizational structures, things like<br> > creating cross-functional teams that get things to production in very<= br> > short cycles. Management gets out of the way and also gets anything<br= > > else out of the way that impedes the people doing the actual work.<br> > This is akin to the world and mindset of lean manufacturing. New roles= <br> > emerge and old roles and their career paths go away. It=E2=80=99s high= ly<br> > disruptive to adopt.<br> > <br> > The critical element is self-managing teams that are free to<br> > experiment in a safe space with different ways of working together.<br= > > Through enlightened trial and error their performance improves.<br> > Similarly, the other key idea is that no one actually knows what the<b= r> > product will look like at inception, certainly not in any detail.<br> > Customers and development teams collaborate to discover what the<br> > product wants to be along the way. Moreover, the world changes while<b= r> > you are doing that and so=E2=80=A6 business agility is the ability to = turn<br> > on a dime for a dime (Larman).<br> > <br> > Agile is quite simply a set of principles and values that guide you in= <br> > conducting small experiments on two levels, discovering what the<br> > product is that the customer wants and discovering better ways of<br> > working together.<br> <br> </p> </div> =20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 <!-- end group email --> </div></blockquote> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <br> <br> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> <div width=3D"1" style=3D"color: white; clear: both;"/>__._,_.___</div> =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20 =20=20=20=20 <div id=3D"fromDMARC" style=3D"clear:both; margin-top: 10px;"> <hr style=3D"height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; backgroun= d-color:#E3E3E3;"> Posted by: Michael Wollin <[email protected]> <hr = style=3D"height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; background-color:#E3E3= E3;"> </div> <!-- Start Recommendations --> <!-- End Recommendations --> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <br><br> <tt> To Post a message, send it to: [email protected]<BR> To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: SCRUMDEVELOPMENT-unsubscribe@eGrou= ps.com</tt> <br><br> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <img src=3D"http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=3D97476590/grpId=3D1569064/grpspI= d=3D1705007709/msgId=3D58812/stime=3D1525159369" width=3D"1" height=3D"1"> = <br> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> =20=20=20=20 <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <br> =20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20 =20 <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <div id=3D"ygrp-vital" style=3D"background-color: #f2f2f2; font-fam= ily: Verdana; font-size: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; padding: 10px;"> <span id=3D"vithd" style=3D"font-weight: bold; color: #333; text-tr= ansform: uppercase; "><a href=3D"https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/SCRUMD= EVELOPMENT/info;_ylc=3DX3oDMTJlOXZqN3ZxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1NjkwNjQE= Z3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA3NzA5BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTUyNTE1OTM2OQ--" s= tyle=3D"text-decoration: none;">Visit Your Group</a></span> <ul style=3D"list-style-type: none; margin: 0; padding: 0; display: in= line;"> <li style=3D"border-right: 1px solid #000; font-weight: 700; di= splay: inline; padding: 0 5px; margin-left: 0;"> <span class=3D"cat"><a href=3D"https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/SC= RUMDEVELOPMENT/members/all;_ylc=3DX3oDMTJmbzVhdWZxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkA= zE1NjkwNjQEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA3NzA5BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZtYnJzBHN0aW1lAzE1MjUx= NTkzNjk-" style=3D"text-decoration: none;">New Members</a></span> <span class=3D"ct" style=3D"color: #ff7900;">1</span> </li> </ul> </div> <div id=3D"ft" style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 11px; margin-top: 5p= x; padding: 0 2px 0 0; clear: both;"> <a href=3D"https://groups.yahoo.com/neo;_ylc=3DX3oDMTJkZnVtcDk5BF9TAzk3ND= c2NTkwBGdycElkAzE1NjkwNjQEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA3NzA5BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA2dmcARzd= GltZQMxNTI1MTU5MzY5" style=3D"float: left;"><img src=3D"http://l.yimg.com/r= u/static/images/yg/img/email/new_logo/logo-groups-137x15.png" height=3D"15"= width=3D"137" alt=3D"Yahoo! 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