Re: What is agile?

"[email protected] [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]" <[email protected]> 02 May 2018 09:15:44 -0700
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I&#39;m struggling to see value in this definition beyond the content contained in the two pages on Agile Manifesto website.&nbsp; I had to go back and look at it, which I recommend that everyone do from time to time, and it really does seem complete and clear even after all of these years.&nbsp; <br><br>Items that aren&#39;t included on the Manifesto site, like &quot;creating cross-functional teams&quot;, aren&#39;t really part of Agile, IMHO. &nbsp; This one in particular seems like a bit of a pipe dream, really.&nbsp; People aren&#39;t fungible resources and shouldn&#39;t be organized like they are.&nbsp; And, surely the principle that, &quot;The best architectures, requirements, and designs emerge from self-organizing teams.&quot;, would win out if the team decided that it wanted to wo
 rk in a very siloed manner?<br><br>I&#39;m not trying to be hyper-critical, but one of the big issues we have in the Agile/Scrum world seems be competing definitions about fundamental concepts.&nbsp; Here we have 4 main clauses in the Manifesto, and 12 underlying principles.&nbsp; It&#39;s short, simple and the implications are fairly obvious.<br><br>If there was one explanatory item that I&#39;d ever feel was needed it would be this:&nbsp; Users never really fully engage in the software design process until you give them working software to interact with.&nbsp; Requirements, white-board diagrams, meetings, demos, mock-ups, prototypes or any other aid you can try will not elicit the input that you need from the customer to build the right software.&nbsp; The only defense against this is 
 write a minimal amount of working software and get it into the customers hands as soon as possible, then listen to what they say.<br><br>It&#39;s clear to me that the authors of&nbsp; the manifesto completely understood this.&nbsp; The first 4 principles are all about making that happen.<br><br>dave



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