Re: TDD and ATDD in Embedded C++ Systems
"Michael Wollin [email protected] [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]" <[email protected]> Fri, 23 Aug 2019 07:01:43 -0700
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--Apple-Mail-1625F1E7-F42D-4BE9-A19E-B5E8B398930C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Great reference. What about CPP? > On Aug 23, 2019, at 4:05 AM, David Morash [email protected] [SCRUMDE= VELOPMENT] <[email protected]> wrote: >=20 > James Grenning also wrote a book on this: >=20 > https://pragprog.com/book/jgade/test-driven-development-for-embedded-c >=20 > On 2019-08-22 11:07 p.m., Michael James [email protected]=20 > [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT] wrote: > > https://cpputest.github.io > >=20 > > James Grenning (https://blog.wingman-sw.com) can even train people on t= his remotely via cyberdojo. > >=20 > > Hope that helps! > >=20 > > =E2=80=94mj > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >> On Aug 22, 2019, at 2:58 PM, Michael Wollin [email protected] [SCRUM= DEVELOPMENT] <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> What is the state of the art these days in until and acceptance testin= g for embedded systems development in C++? I hear the Google test is now de= rigor versus CPlusPlusUnit. I may be coaching a group seen that thinks tha= t agile won=E2=80=99t work for firmware and I want to prepare and have my s= tuff together. Any thoughts on CI/CD in this world? > >> > >> Note: I=E2=80=99m a rusty C++ developer but in the day did some seriou= s stuff (Video codecs, communications protocols, compression, i960 and 68K = and Z80). I never did TDD unit testing back then. I learned that magic late= r when I was doing Java Servlet development. So I used to familiar with JUn= it in three different IDEs. > >> > >> I don=E2=80=99t program anymore but I want to encourage people on the = teams I will be coaching to give this a try. > >> > >> Advice appreciated. I will be playing with it enough to get the feel. = It will be fun to see if I can even code anymore. > >> > >> Michael > >> > >> > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > ------------------------------------ > > Posted by: Michael James <[email protected]> > > ------------------------------------ > >=20 > > To Post a message, send it to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: SCRUMDEVELOPMENT-unsubscribe@e= Groups.com > > ------------------------------------ > >=20 > > Yahoo Groups Links > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-1625F1E7-F42D-4BE9-A19E-B5E8B398930C Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <head> <style type=3D"text/css"> <!-- /* start of attachment style */ .ygrp-photo-title{ clear: both; font-size: smaller; height: 15px; overflow: hidden; text-align: center; width: 75px; } div.ygrp-photo{ background-position: center; background-repeat: no-repeat; background-color: white; border: 1px solid black; height: 62px; width: 62px; } div.photo-title=20 a, div.photo-title a:active, div.photo-title a:hover, div.photo-title a:visited { text-decoration: none;=20 } div.attach-table div.attach-row { clear: both; } div.attach-table div.attach-row div { float: left; /* margin: 2px;*/ } p { clear: both; padding: 15px 0 3px 0; overflow: hidden; } div.ygrp-file { width: 30px; valign: middle; } div.attach-table div.attach-row div div a { text-decoration: none; } div.attach-table div.attach-row div div span { font-weight: normal; } div.ygrp-file-title { font-weight: bold; } /* end of attachment style */ --> </style> </head> <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset= =3Dutf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <br><br> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> <div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Great reference. What about CPP?</d= iv><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Aug 23, 2019, at 4:05 AM, David Morash <a href= =3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> [SCRUMDEVELOP= MENT] <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">SCRUMDEVELOPM= [email protected]</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><= div dir=3D"ltr"> =20 <span style=3D"display:none"> </span> <div id=3D"ygrp-text"> =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 <p>James Grenning also wrote a book on this:<br> <br> <a href=3D"https://pragprog.com/book/jgade/test-driven-development-for-embe= dded-c">https://pragprog.com/book/jgade/test-driven-development-for-embedde= d-c</a><br> <br> On 2019-08-22 11:07 p.m., Michael James <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]= m">[email protected]</a> <br> [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT] wrote:<br> > <a href=3D"https://cpputest.github.io">https://cpputest.github.io</a><= br> > <br> > James Grenning (<a href=3D"https://blog.wingman-sw.com">https://blog.w= ingman-sw.com</a>) can even train people on this remotely via cyberdojo.<br= > > <br> > Hope that helps!<br> > <br> > =E2=80=94mj<br> > <br> > <br> > <br> >> On Aug 22, 2019, at 2:58 PM, Michael Wollin <a href=3D"mailto:yaho= [email protected]">[email protected]</a> [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT] <<a href=3D"= mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</= a>> wrote:<br> >><br> >> What is the state of the art these days in until and acceptance te= sting for embedded systems development in C++? I hear the Google test is no= w de rigor versus CPlusPlusUnit. I may be coaching a group seen that thinks= that agile won=E2=80=99t work for firmware and I want to prepare and have = my stuff together. Any thoughts on CI/CD in this world?<br> >><br> >> Note: I=E2=80=99m a rusty C++ developer but in the day did some se= rious stuff (Video codecs, communications protocols, compression, i960 and = 68K and Z80). I never did TDD unit testing back then. I learned that magic = later when I was doing Java Servlet development. So I used to familiar with= JUnit in three different IDEs.<br> >><br> >> I don=E2=80=99t program anymore but I want to encourage people on = the teams I will be coaching to give this a try.<br> >><br> >> Advice appreciated. I will be playing with it enough to get the fe= el. It will be fun to see if I can even code anymore.<br> >><br> >> Michael<br> >><br> >><br> > <br> > <br> > <br> > ------------------------------------<br> > Posted by: Michael James <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">mj4= [email protected]</a>><br> > ------------------------------------<br> > <br> > To Post a message, send it to: <a href=3D"mailto:SCRUMDEVELOPMENT@eG= roups.com">[email protected]</a><br> > To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: <a href=3D"mailto:SCRUMDEVELO= [email protected]">[email protected]</a>= <br> > ------------------------------------<br> > <br> > Yahoo Groups Links<br> > <br> > <br> > <br> </p> </div> =20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 <!-- end group email --> </div></blockquote> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <br> <br> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> <div width=3D"1" style=3D"color: white; clear: both;"/>__._,_.___</div> =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20 =20=20=20=20 <div id=3D"fromDMARC" style=3D"clear:both; margin-top: 10px;"> <hr style=3D"height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; backgroun= d-color:#E3E3E3;"> Posted by: Michael Wollin <[email protected]> <hr = style=3D"height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; background-color:#E3E3= E3;"> </div> <!-- Start Recommendations --> <!-- End Recommendations --> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <br><br> <tt> To Post a message, send it to: [email protected]<BR> To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: SCRUMDEVELOPMENT-unsubscribe@eGrou= ps.com</tt> <br><br> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <img src=3D"http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=3D97476590/grpId=3D1569064/grpspI= d=3D1705007709/msgId=3D58865/stime=3D1566568908" width=3D"1" height=3D"1"> = <br> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> =20=20=20=20 <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <br> =20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20 =20 <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <div id=3D"ygrp-vital" style=3D"background-color: #f2f2f2; font-fam= ily: Verdana; font-size: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; padding: 10px;"> <span id=3D"vithd" style=3D"font-weight: bold; color: #333; text-tr= ansform: uppercase; "><a href=3D"https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/SCRUMD= EVELOPMENT/info;_ylc=3DX3oDMTJlZDNvZHRrBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1NjkwNjQE= Z3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA3NzA5BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTU2NjU2ODkwOA--" s= tyle=3D"text-decoration: none;">Visit Your Group</a></span> <ul style=3D"list-style-type: none; margin: 0; padding: 0; display: in= line;"> </ul> </div> <div id=3D"ft" style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 11px; margin-top: 5p= x; padding: 0 2px 0 0; clear: both;"> <a href=3D"https://groups.yahoo.com/neo;_ylc=3DX3oDMTJkaW01bXBqBF9TAzk3ND= c2NTkwBGdycElkAzE1NjkwNjQEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA3NzA5BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA2dmcARzd= GltZQMxNTY2NTY4OTA4" style=3D"float: left;"><img src=3D"http://l.yimg.com/r= u/static/images/yg/img/email/new_logo/logo-groups-137x15.png" height=3D"15"= width=3D"137" alt=3D"Yahoo! 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