Re: Erroneous Assertion about TDD
Gábos Alpár <[email protected]>
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Very well said Russ! ________________________________ From: Russell Gold <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2013 5:12 AM Subject: Re: [TDD] Erroneous Assertion about TDD "is there any room left for creativity in coding?" That's hilarious. Let's reach back in time… As poets focus more on rhyme schemes and meter, where is there room for creativity? Now they have this new-fangled thing called a "sonnet." It has to be exactly 14 lines long, all in iambic pentameter, with each of the first 3 groups of lines following an abab rhyme scheme, and the final two a rhyming couplet. Is there are any room left for creativity in poetry? To ask the question is to demonstrate that one does not understand the industry and the practices one whit. Creativity does not mean undisciplined hacking. On Apr 20, 2013, at 1:41 AM, Charlie Poole <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi All, > > Here's an excerpt from a newsletter I got from O'Reilly today... > > "For many old-school software engineers, *developing code* has always been *as > much an art as a science*. But as the industry focuses more on practices > such as Test-Driven Development, and Patterns become the lingua franca of > programming, *is there any room left for real creativity in coding?* Or, > has it become an exercise in cookie-cutter production, putting together > components in new ways, but without any real room for individual style?" > > How can such misunderstanding can still exist? Anyway, they asked for > opinions and I sent this: > > "I was a bit dismayed at your question "...as the industry focuses more on > practices such as Test-Driven Development, and Patterns become the lingua > franca of programming, is there any room left for real creativity in > coding?" > > "I'll address the point as it applies to Test-Driven Development, since > that's closest to my heart. I'm an advocate of TDD as well as the > maintainer of NUnit, a unit-test framework that aims to facilitate TDD. > > "To put it baldly, anyone who finds that Test-Driven Development stifles > their creativity simply isn't doing TDD as it's intended to be practiced. > The self-imposed discipline of first discovering tests that will require > the development of the production code we actually want to write is without > a doubt difficult to learn. But once it is learned, it's a source of great > creativity. Just as the strict form of the sonnet allowed Shakespeare to > channel his creativity, the discipline of TDD demands creativity from > developers who adopt it. > > "Of course, doing TDD this way doesn't just happen. First and foremost, as > hinted in the preceding paragraph, it's a discipline that must be first > understood and chosen by the programmer - either as an individual or as > part of a team that decides to adopt TDD. Management-imposed TDD - like > most management-imposed technical practices - only succeeds in taking > responsibility away from the programmer. > > "Test-Driven Development is a technique discovered and advocated by > programmers for programmers. It's a spark for creativity. When it's > reinterpreted as a set of rules to be imposed on the programmers, it can > easily have the opposite affect. But that's not unique to TDD. We've seen > it before with many other techniques and will likely see it again." > > What do you think? Have you heard such complaints? What do you tell people > in response? > > Charlie > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > ----------------- Come read my webnovel, Take a Lemon <http://www.takealemon.com>, and listen to the Misfile radio play <http://www.gold-family.us/audio/misfile.html>! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/testdrivendevelopment/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/testdrivendevelopment/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/